Tony

I didn’t ask anything. I didn’t quote you, and I didn’t put a question mark in it. I said “Still rather have Keller” meaning I’d still rather have Mitch Keller (??) than Andrew Vaughn. Now obviously I don’t believe that, I was being incredibly sarcastic based on how stupid of a take it was, both then, and now. But it won’t stop being funny for quite a while.

I have no doubts he looks like Jose come July, but that’s not helping the Sox now. Vaughn should be getting some time at 1B

No, what?

Still rather have Keller

Dylan Cease was absolutely awesome today.

All I'm saying is I'm putting the blame on the FO, not Vaughn. It's simply not fair to him. You're asking him to play a brand new position at literally the highest level there is. Do I think he'll get better? For sure. But in the meantime, I don't know how anyone can expect anything other than a disaster, because playing major league baseball is VERY fucking hard. This falls on the FO.

Again, he's playing a position he shouldn't be. He's literally playing spots for the first time (maybe ever?) He didn't register a single start in the OF in college or the minors. I don't know what people expect here?

You know Tim Anderson plays for the Sox, right? You just not watch those innings, or what?

Tim has had his head in his ass most of this season, so that checks out.

Correct. The same way Grandal or Cease aren't OF's. He shouldn't be out there.

I would def. trade him for Mitch Keller ?

Andrew Vaughn is a really good baseball player.

The Sox are going to acquire Whit this season, aren't they?

I've been told none of this matters because he's only doing it in April, those games aren't really important to the Sox, they have the division locked up. ?

Not many would disagree with that. But again, that's not what you said. You've been VERY vocal in your support of the Sox. That's fine. You do you. I can disagree and we can go back and forth, but that's what makes the world go round. What I take issue with is the idea that if people complain or upset with the Sox, they should just stop watching and do something else. 1. People can do anything they want and 2. More importantly, that's not what being a "fan" is. Your team should be there for you. Yes, when the Sox aren't playing well, there are long stretches during the season where I only might watch an inning or two and then move onto something else. It doesn't mean I'm not going to be upset when I look at my phone and see they lost 6-0 and have lost 8 straight. I can still log onto Soxtalk and discuss it. The picture you've painted is "Enjoy the White Sox when they are good, but when they aren't, you shouldn't watch or be invested! Only come back when they are good!" If all Sox fans took that advice they'd have fans for like, 12 weeks out of the year. Additionally, living in a major market, I expect more out of my teams. This isn't Pittsburgh. We don't live in Kansas City. Sorry, but when the off-season is 6 months, and the season started about 20 days ago, I take issue with a "fan" already telling us to turn them off if they frustrate you. Fuck that. Get better. Do better. Play better. How about we all raise the collective expectation level around here, instead of taking your attitude of "Welp, if ya don't like the White Sox, just don't watch, mmmm'kay?"

That's not what you or I said, but you know that already.

So what you're suggesting is fans just show apathy, and only become emotionally invested when the team is good?

#Facts

Time to watch the last few episodes of Severance….

Sorry, but everyone is responsible for this. Jerry, Kenny, Rick and Tony. They are all in this together, I don't care who didn't want TLR or not. It just creates more drama and in-fighting with this shit.

Is there a belief Yolbert could get playing time at 2B for the Sox this season?

FO is a way different discussion. That has a huge impact, from the lower levels on up, in my opinion. I was only talking about a major league coaching staff, but I know the poster you were quoting mentioned FO.

I've pretty much always believed it comes down to 95% player execution. Tim has made like 1000 errors to start the season. That's on Tim. He is a professional, he's been here before...make the play. Even if you were to hate your manager or something along those lines, you can still field your position. Coaches, both hitting and pitching, at least provide you with a gameplan and what they want you to execute on. It's on the player to actually execute. The issue I have with TLR, like many us of do, is the items he actually is responsible for, the items that do fall on him.....he seems to fail at. The whole "having his team ready to play" I think is mostly nonsense. There is probably some impact here and there but mostly I don't really buy into that line of thinking, again the players need to execute.

Good quotes from Menechino: Full article: https://theathletic.com/3269157/2022/04/25/white-sox-seek-patience-to-reverse-offensive-slump-if-youre-not-taking-your-walks-youre-falling-into-their-plan/?source=emp_shared_article