Tony

It's such a stupid rule. The All-Star Game should not be a participation trophy. The best of the best should be playing, not "everyone gets an invite!"

About the same amount of fans who bought tickets to see The Tim Elko Experience.

These are the type of posts that really convince me the "greg775" account has been parody this entire time, but if that's truly been the case, it would be one of the longest, most impressive bits in the history of the internet.

Math was never my strength, but even I can understand that volume wouldn’t have anything to do with this equation. Just because there may be more fastballs thrown doesn’t result in a higher MPH average in baseball. As others have mentioned, it’s a combination of guys getting stronger, ramping up their arms at 13-14 years old, offseason programs, etc. Again, even 20 years ago, Freddy Garcia wasn’t going to Driveline in the offseason to refine his craft. Sports performance has seen a dramatic rise over the last decade plus and we’re seeing the results of that on the field.

He's not pushing them over the top, but he could certainly help them. If they put him in the rotation, it allows them to move someone like Cade Horton or Colin Rea to the bullpen. But the Cubs bullpen has been pretty lights out the last few months, they need starters to eat up 5-6 innings and keep them in games for their bats.

1. Yes. 2. This isn't just about how fast they are throwing. It's about the volume of players doing it. For example, in this 2023 article by SI: 10-15 years ago, a guy hitting 100 MPH on the gun was still a rare occurrence. It doesn't feel that way in 2025, with as many players that do it now. And given that they've been using the same technology to track speed since 2007, there isn't really any dispute on the subject. Guys are throwing harder, and there are more of them than there ever has been.

When the White Sox won in 2005, Jon Garland was second in team WAR, only behind Buehrle. Don't remember a ton of stories about how much the Cubs helped the Sox win a world series. Take the best package available.

The day he goes, unless another Reinsdorf takes over, my outlook will dramatically change. If it's Ishbia, I'll come in with a hopeful view, because there isn't much historical evidence (at this point at least, I know with the way the possible ownership change is structured, we may find out about his potential spending habits before he's officially owner) and I just don't see how things can get worse under him, from where they are today. For a lot of us, Jerry Reinsdorf is the only owner we've experienced as White Sox fans. When he's gone, everything changes. Doesn't mean everything is going to get better, but the only way this franchise truly changes is by cutting off the head of the snake.

After reading comments the last two years, I think most here are basically on the same page, the difference comes down one thing: Faith The results speak for themselves. Because Jerry made Getz the choice to run things, a “clean slate” was never possible, because of his involvement with the previous regime. That shouldn’t have come as a surprise to Getz either. Additionally, while everyone involved with this team the last two decades should wear their failures, Jerry is the boss. Jerry is the one who kept Hahn and KW 10 years too long, Jerry is the one who refuses to sign top tier players, Jerry is the one who refuses to adapt to baseball in 2025, Jerry is the one who decided Getz was the most qualified the run baseball ops. It’s been bad decision after bad decision. So when it comes to the topic of the performance of Chris Getz as President of Baseball Ops, it boils down to what level of faith you have in the decision making of Jerry Reinsdorf. I’ve made my feelings known on the subject many times, but my faith in Jerry on a scale of 1-100 is about -8 right now. Doesn’t mean Getz is absolutely going to fail, but my level of skepticism is extremely high based on Jerry thinking he was qualified to do the job. From a baseball perspective, Jerry Reinsdorf is objectively an awful decision maker.

If my PbP record was 66-174, I'd probably be on the ledge too.

There is supposed to be an infusion of cash in the offseason, and Peggy K reported a few weeks ago she heard it WAS related to baseball ops...but that doesn't mean it has to be for free agents specifically. But while I believe the jury is still very much out on Getz...my hope would be a "real" owner treats this as "Tell me what you need to turn this around, we're going to spend what is needed so you have what you need to be successful." I haven't looked at the FA market this offseason, and don't even know if there are players that make sense for long-term investments from the Sox given how far away they are...but maybe we do start to see some slight changes in the offseason.

God it would be awesome if the prosecution was a rabid Sox fan, and just asked him a ton of questions about the state of the team, why did he hire La Russa, why hasn't he signed a player to a $100 million dollar contract, etc. 😂

I've been more than fine going to 1-2 Chicago Dogs games over the last few summers with the kids. Enjoyable experience, cheap, kids enjoy it. And it's super easy to get to living on the north shore. Sox would be barking up the wrong tree in Rosemont

I’m not making any judgments. Having the worst record in baseball since 2023 isn’t a judgment. It’s fact.

Listen, I'll admit part of me is envious of you. Your ability to detach from reality and live in a fantasy world is pretty impressive. You reference letting "history" cloud my judgement, as if I'm citing what the 1974 White Sox did has some baring on what's happening in 2025. I'll repeat myself for the folks in the back: Since the start of the 2023 season, the White Sox are 125-272. They have been the worst team in baseball over that stretch. We're still in that stretch. It's happening..right now. Lastly, you're on this crusade against those that are too negative, using phrases like "spare me your angry tears that blind you so much." I'm not going stop you from trying to sound like drunk Shakespeare, but it seems like you may be the angry one? I don't watch the White Sox. A few weeks ago I watched about 6 innings of a Shane Smith start, and it was the first game I had actually spent time watching. For the very limited time I spend around the White Sox, 95% of that is spent here. It's upsetting their poor management has led to my lack of interest, but I'll start to care more when ownership cares more. I'm not crying, I'm not angry. All I did was state objective fact to you. They have the second worst record in the league in 2025, and have been the worst team in baseball over the last 2.5 seasons.

I'm sorry, what now? Did you get a memo none of us got? The White Sox are 23-50, and have the second worst record in the sport, only behind the historically bad Rockies, who have the "privilege" of most likely dethroning the 2024 White Sox as the worst team in MLB history. Since the start of the 2023 season, the White Sox are 125-272. The Rockies are still 11 games ahead of the Sox over that time, at 136-261. This has been the worst stretch of White Sox baseball any of us have ever lived through, and that's saying something, given how mediocre this franchise has been historically. You have every right to be as "positive" as you want. Go nuts. But spare everyone the puzzled thought of "Gee, can't understand why people are down on the White Sox??"

I think it's much easier for a fan base to get upset with a player who is complaining to the media about a position switch...when they aren't performing. While I don't follow the Red Sox on a daily basis, from the outside looking in, it seems as though Devers was upset the franchise told him one thing and did another. I don't care how much it happens in other walks of life, it sucks when you're a baseball player or a plumber. The biggest thing, for me, is that while Devers may have not preferred to play DH and made that known...he started every game for the Red Sox this season, and is in the middle of having one of his best seasons. He may not have been thrilled with the position the team put him in, but he's gone to work everyday and performed. As a fan, that's what I want out of my franchise player.

These are....contradicting thoughts.

Even if Jerry/Ishiba would approve it, it's still not a smart deal. While the package the Giants sent over to Boston certainly wasn't impressive, it would still have cost the Sox assets, but much more importantly, Devers will be 29 when the season is over. With or without Devers, the White Sox aren't close to competing in the next 2-3 seasons. Paying a 33,34,35,36 year old Devers 23 million + each season is not something I'd want my favorite team signing up for.

Is it fair to call it the “back” when like 20 of the 26 guys wouldn’t be on other ML rosters? 😂

But the two don't have to be mutually exclusive. I know I'm not making this point, and I don't believe AJ was...that if you have great player development, you can turn any baseball player into a star. Kind of goes without saying that talent evaluation is always going to be incredibly important. BUT...say your talent evaluation is on par with the upper echelon teams in the league. You identify someone with tremendous skills, but is raw (like most young talent) What are you doing to bring out those skills and develop them into great major league players? What coaching are you providing that gives your players an edge? What data are you providing to your players that no one else in the league is doing?

Every case is different. But the key is development doesn't stop in the minor leagues. AJ Pierzynski was on the radio this week on ESPN 1000, and they asked him "With new ownership coming aboard, what would you do if you were the new owner? One of things he said was "If you talk to players who have played for the Sox recently, they'll tell you about deficiencies and coaching that players get in other organizations that they don't get with the White Sox." Historically, I believe there is enough evidence from results and reporting that have told us the White Sox were in the stone ages on player development. Hopefully that is changing, remains to be seen and I have serious doubts because of who the owner still is...but we'll start to get a better idea if change is really happening over the next 24 months.

Tonight was the first game I've watched basically the entire game, and seemingly picked a good one. Still a VERY long way to go big pitcher, but there is at least enough young talent on the team to make them watchable, which I suppose are baby steps.

They have way more information than we have to go off of, obviously. While I'm certainly not in the habit of doing it recently with the White Sox, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here. But I would think most agree that the goal should be to see if Taylor can start at some point here in the next year or so, and not already committing to him being an RP at this point.

We spent months talking about Crochet, how from 2021-2023, he pitched a combined 79 innings in three years, (in 2023 he had 25 total innings) and went on to pitch 146 innings in 2024, making 32 starts. I believe he's on pace right now for over 200 IP in 2025 (currently sitting at 88 IP over 14 starts) Another outlier? Maybe...but we seem to be seeing it more, where guys can make big jumps year to year.