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Rodon might be traded down the line, but for now, I think he's an essential part of the team. Keep in mind that he was rushed to the big leagues without a doubt. In hindsight, he probably should've spent all of 2015 in the minors. Just because he isn't improving at a Sale-like pace doesn't mean he won't be good. He also suffered from a terrible defense and pitch framing last year. It takes time for some of these guys to find their stride and hopefully 2017 is the year he takes a big step forward. If we're having this discussion at this time next year, then I'll be slightly worried. Right now, I'm not.

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) Help me understand something: Rodon's been pretty mediocre so far in his career; where some see promise in his Sept/Oct results last year, I see a "garbage time hero." He's been a bit of a China Doll so far in his career, with injuries in every season sidelining him, and now whatever this latest issue may be... He's represented by Greed Incarnate, who will never ever agree to a contract extension here. Why is Rodon considered to be a part of this team's core again? Thanks in advance. You're kidding...right?

Nice to see Moncada get a hit.

The arm issues he supposedly had last year that hadn't been mentioned until today are definitely concerning. Hoping for the best...

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 05:03 PM) Mike, I like you and appreciate your posting, but you seriously need to stop with your petty comments towards admins when anyone disagrees with you. If you want to hold Admins/Mods to a higher standard, please hold yourself to it. I respect the mods/admins to the fullest. I'm just saying that if any random Joe Schmo member brought up politics in a Sox thread, they would've been punished for it. That's all.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 02:11 PM) the overreaction was unnecessary, the comment was mild at best Careful, your bias is showing.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 01:26 PM) Amused as I am that SS2K5 is being called out for being a liberal riot-starter, the politics need to end now, or take it to the Buster. Any further political posts in this thread will be deleted. It was absolutely unnecessary and I am shocked that an admin of all people would derail a thread like that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:06 PM) Hey Donald Trump could become a great President too, but I am not holding my breath for that moment either. I'm not going to argue with you if you resort to talking politics to prove your case. That's completely irrelevant to the discussion that we're having.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 07:54 PM) It is about being realistic based on the history of the franchise, and not living in a fantasy world. How is the idea of the Sox signing Robert a fantasy? Reputable sources have mentioned it as a possibility. It's not like we're grasping for this rumor out of thin air. Just because signing a guy like him isn't something the Sox would've done in the past doesn't mean they can't change their ways.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 05:51 PM) Let me ask the board this. Would you guys rather have Robert, 20 guys signed for $300k each, plus whatever we could get for $3.5 in slot money or our last two signing classes? I'll take the former hands down even with the helium Tatis has right now. Robert is too special of a talent to pass on for a bunch of B/C tier 16 year old prospects. 100% agreed and it's not a debate for me. I think SS2K5 is being contrarian in this thread just for the fun of it.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) Is this possible. If he became available soon, could Boston sign Luis Robert to a huge deal then trade him as part of a package to the White Sox? That would be very weird if that happened, but I guess it could.

The Sox can't shy away from this opportunity because he "might" be Jorge Soler 2.0 These guys with insane upside don't grow on trees, he's well worth the risk even if he amounts to nothing.

Why is Benintendi untouchable all of a sudden?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 10:18 AM) I don't believe they traded for Sale as a precaution to Porcello or Price going down for any significant amount of time. You make that Sale move to put your team way over the top. Now they are just in the same spot they were last year with (even though Sale > Price). Sale/Porcello/Rodriguez/Wright/Pomeranz is a decent rotation but nothing special IMO.

Too bad Price isn't on the Astros.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) Isn't this the exact same thing we heard yesterday from the exact same source? lol calm the excitement a bit haha I don't know haha, but I'd be pumped if the Sox picked him up.

I doubt Boston would gut their system and give it all to the Sox, but I wonder what they would offer for Q.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 08:42 AM) Baseball America‏Verified account @BaseballAmerica 27m27 minutes ago More The #WhiteSox look like the favorites to land ??star prospect Luis Robert: http://bit.ly/2mdDaaR YES!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If his bat is as good as advertised, he can DH for all I care and I'd still take him 1st overall.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 04:57 PM) Look up the list of guys who have signed for pennies on the dollar out of Latin America. Signing for a lot of money at age 16 isn't nearly as clear of an indicator as signing at 21 or even 18. I mean how you would like to spend $4.25 million on Michael Ynoa, so that you missed out on other guys who go on to be stars for a fraction of that price? You can cherrypick individual players all you want to prove your point, but it's like comparing apples to oranges. Ynoa was nowhere as highly rated as Robert and they don't play the same position either. They're not comparable. It's not like signing Robert would prevent these pennies on the dollar signings anyway, so I'm not sure what your point is.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 04:01 PM) Dayan Viciedo is nowhere near the prospect Robert is. Robert is the absolute best prospect coming out of Cuba. You bring up Viciedo's bat making him a potential superstar and yeah, that was all he had past a great arm wasted in LF. Robert is physically blessed. He has tools of all sorts that can make him a very productive player even if he has contact issues coming stateside. Yoan Moncada is a far more comparable player to Robert. Both 19-years-old at defecting, both incredibly gifted athletes with in game results. Moncada was signed two years ago this month. He is now, by some accounts, the number 1 prospect in baseball and on the short list of the White Sox most valuable assets. Well said. Even if Robert only becomes a 2-3 WAR player at the big league level, it's still a worthwhile investment IMO, but he has the potential to be an absolute superstar.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 03:27 PM) Again, this is not true. Would you rather sign a potential superstar or 10 mediocre prospects for the same amount of money? For me the answer is clear.

I really hope the Sox sign him. He's supposedly a premier talent and would definitely be a 1st round pick if he was draft eligible. All it will cost the Sox is money, they need to pull the trigger at whatever price.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) I want Alvarez. The Sox rebuild is SLOW. So try to win this year as well. We need a DH desperately. On paper he'd be a prime candidate to blossom. We always sign pitchers who are on the comeback trail, why not hitters? Alvarez would fill a need. Then you add a catcher and a middle reliever via trade if we are in contention at the all star break. I can't figure out how the Sox are selling any season tickets at this point. They are just telling the fans we are rebuilding at a snail's pace. We have a ton of veteran players still but we have no intention of contending with them. Seriously ... Shields?? Robertson?? Frazier?? Melky?? Avi?? Abreu?? Lawrie?? Holland?? Q?? And we're rebuilding?? I don't get it at all!!!! Don't insult me, White Sox. Pick up Alvarez now please. How are they rebuilding at a snail's pace? They traded away 2 of their biggest assets within a day of each other.

I'd personally rank the Sox ahead of the Bears but otherwise that list looks good to me. The Bulls are an absolute trainwreck of an organization.