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QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:38 AM) About 47 teams want him. Welcome to the prom, I'm the queen. Don't like how John Danks preformed last year and Kenny blames you. Gallo is going to be an annual 450 strike out risk. You'll have to do better than that. How about we give you Abreu for Mazara and Profar thou. Excuse me, my tent is being pitched. -Rick Hahn I'm the king, bro. It ain't my fault your scouts suck balls. Gallo is the best thing since sliced bread. The Sox haven't had a guy this powerful since Joe Borchard. Mazara, Gallo, Profar, Mendez, and Taveras for Sale. Just do it. Jon

I'd personally keep Minaya. He didn't pitch a ton in September, but he looked pretty good when he got a chance.

Hey Ricky ol' pal ol' buddy, I know we're homies and all, but I want Sale. Would Mazara, Profar, and Gallo do the trick? Let me know. Thanks, Jon.

QUOTE (peppers312 @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) Because Fowler wants 4 years and Eaton is obviously already under control. Fowler would cost much more financially than Eaton, but much less in terms of prospects. The Jays aren't the Red Sox or Dodgers, they don't have tons of depth to trade from anyway. I don't think this is happening.

I'll take Jon Daniels.

Not sure why Toronto would empty their already mediocre system for a guy like Eaton when they could just sign Fowler and give up 1 pick.

If Reddick is elite, then I am the sexiest man alive.

QUOTE (Donaldo @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) Cashman just picked up several top prospects at the deadline. If he's willing to give up some of that talent for an aging headcase with questionable mechanics, that's fine by me. 27 years old is "aging"? LMAO.

The Tommy John thing is complete BS. There's no reason why he's more prone to it than any other pitcher.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 06:56 PM) I wonder if the Sox are just waiting for the Dodgers to say the right thing. When it comes to moving Sale, the NL West is the best landing spot from a PR standpoint. Trading to an AL team that they face every year, or an East team that gets more attention would hurt a little more. Don't get me wrong, they should just get the best deal, but would you rather see Sale in a Red Sox uniform, or Quintana? Me? I want Sale on the Dodgers hopefully eliminating the Cubs in a playoff game. I highly doubt the Sox care about any of this. They just want the best return possible.

I definitely think Houston is a much more likely landing spot for Chris now than they were just 24 hours ago.

Thanks everyone. I only have one game at this point (MLB The Show 2015), and I love it. I'm definitely going to try and pick up some other games as well.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) It will be stages of grief. It will be exciting at first, it could be disappointing at first, but sad will come last. Appreciate the hell out of what he's done and the .gifs of him with a wipeout slider hitting the batter while they swing for strike 3. But, we are where we are. I like this post. Of course I'll be sad once it happens, but the level of sadness depends on who the Sox get in return. If the Sox get Benintendi and several other good prospects? I'll only be a little upset. If the Sox don't get a blue chip prospect at all? I'll be very, very sad.

Simple question. Poll above.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) I think this is basically the wet dream of the majority of us. Let's assume though that it simply isn't possible. Let's say you had to choose between these deals for Sale to the Red Sox and Q to the Dodgers: Sale to the Red Sox: 1) Benintendi/Devers or 2) Benintendi/Kopech/Groome/Swihart Q to the Doders: 1) DeLeon/Bellinger or 2) DeLeon/Barnes/Lux/Puig Which would you choose? The 2nd Red Sox deal and the 1st Dodgers one if I absolutely had to pick, but I don't particularly like any of those offers.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 12:24 PM) I've pondered where he goes for months it seems like. I was thinking Boston all along but then always thought the Dodgers may pony up and the Sox send him to the NL. However, I think LA trades for Kinsler and the Sox go for Boston's top hitting prospect package. Red Sox: Chris Sale-LHP Nate Jones-RP White Sox: Eduardo Rodriguez-LHP Andrew Benintendi-CF Michael Kopech-RHP Rafael Devers-3B Christian Vazquez-C (I'd take him over Swihart because Vazquez can at least play the position and is really good defensively.) That package seems way too light if both Sale and Jones are included, IMO.

Another Sale thread! How many do we have now? 7? lol

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 09:56 AM) glad to hear No problem. It's such groundbreaking information that I had to tell you.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 10:16 AM) Yes, but would you really care? The chances of these guys being impact players is beyond small. They won't get you anything in a trade, and are easily to replace with something similar, especially if they are rebuilding. I'd like to see Liriano play a bit. Losing the other two wouldn't be a big deal, but I think Rymer has potential.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) I started listening to a few different podcasts recently, and listened to the Joe Rogan experience yesterday, and his guests are Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson. Anyone interested in ancient civilizations, comet impacts, egypt, extinction events, you need to listen to this podcast. It is absolutely fascinating I had to do an ancient civilizations project in 6th grade. I hated every second of it.

I still see no way this deal comes to fruition if Swanson is off the table. He's the only guy they have besides Inciarte that I would really want anyway.

The Sox have a lot of fringe guys on the 40 man as of today. They can easily dump a few to make space for players with more potential.

Is this Birenbaum guy credible? I've never heard of him before.

I think what a lot of you guys fail to realize in a Sale trade is that it's HIGHLY unlikely that any particular guy they acquire will be as good as Sale is right now. Take Boston for example. Everyone wants Benintendi, for good reason. Will he be as good as Sale, even a couple years from now? Probably not. Sale has been the 2nd best starter in all of baseball since 2012 and produces ridiculous amounts of WAR year in and year out. With that being said, can the Sox win a Sale trade? Absolutely. The Sox could trade a legit superstar (Sale) for a potential All Star (Benintendi), a well above average third baseman if he pans out (Devers) and the catcher of the future (Swihart). Trading Sale fills 3 holes in the everyday lineup (CF, 3B, C) that have been barren for the most part for years, and that doesn't even consider that they'd most likely get a high potential starting pitcher to take his place (Rodriguez) and a high octane bullpen arm (Kopech). Of course the pitching would get worse short term, but the Sox have shown an ability to develop pitching and they wouldn't be contending in the next year or two anyway if they made this trade. If they're trading Sale, they need to trade for elite hitters. A lot of them. Everyone with the exception of Rodriguez would be controlled through at least 2023, so they could transform the team from being "mired in mediocrity" into a bunch of young, hungry, high potential players with the ability to add a marquee free agent like Harper in a few years if everything goes according to plan.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 09:56 AM) Unless one of them is a star on the level of Sale, it is a failure. The whole idea is to fill a lot of holes. If you have a big step down in quality from an ace pitcher, and only fill two holes, it is a bust. Hypothetically, would you be happy with a Sale for Moncada and Benintendi deal? The Sox would only get 2 guys back for Sale but both have superstar potential.