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QUOTE (fredmanrique @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) I wonder if we can go to a team with very low payroll like Atlanta and look to dump our 2015 salary-dump contenders (LaRoche and Danks) while offering a flyer on Avi as well as 1-2 legit prospects not named Anderson, Fulmer. If Adams and Danish/Beck, Michalewsi, etc can free up the ability to sign two more guys that 2-3 year window becomes a lot more serious. If they could get creative and dump both those contracts (pie in the sky I know) you'd really be talking about being able to add 2 of the big 3 OF's and/or Maeda. One can dream: 1.) Eaton, CF 2.) Abreu, 1B 3.) Gordon, LF 4.) Cespedes, RF 5.) Frazier, 3B 6.) Cabrera, DH 7.) Lawrie, 2B 8.) Avila, C 9.) Saladino, SS That team becomes middle of the pack defensively too. You rarely see deals like that in MLB but it sure would be nice. This would be my dream scenario, but realistically, a proposal like this has a .0000000001% chance of actually happening in real life.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) I don't have a name right off the top of my head. But Garcia has trade value that could probably help the sox this year with a guy like Gordon added. Hahn has to have a trade partner lined up who would want Garcia if the signed a free agent Kevin Gausman is an intriguing name to me but I think Baltimore is still high enough on him that they wouldn't trade him for Avi.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Well said. Getting a true professional like Gordon would be a nice coup for the Sox. We'd be lucky to get him. With Gordon signed, the Sox could trade Avi for a young starting pitcher who may be struggling-like Garcia. If he's not starting he could be a bullpen arm. Who falls into that category that Garcia could be traded for? I can't think of any.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 02:24 PM) what's going on with Houston's outfield? They have four guys: Marsinick, Rasmus, Gomez, and Springer. One would think Gomez and Rasmus could be had for reasonable. Marisnick is a guy that I'd love to have on the Sox. He's young, cheap, and elite defensively.

Honestly, I would be content with this lineup Eaton (CF) Melky (LF) Abreu (1B) FA Acquisition (RF) Frazier (3B) Lawrie (2B) LaRoche/Garcia (DH) Navarro/Avila © Saladino (SS) with the bench being Shuck, LaRoche/Garcia, Avila/Navarro, and Sanchez.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 12:52 PM) Not a chance What kind of contract do you think he'll get then?

I think Parra could be had for under $10 million for 2 years considering the market, but that's just me.

Hypothetically though, if the Sox signed one of the 3 elite outfielders, Parra, and found a way to get rid of Avi, what would happen to J.B. Shuck? I don't know about you guys, but I thought he was very good 4th outfielder/pinch hitter last year.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) The motivated thing was just for a little extra motivation. You always hear about how facing your old team is added incentive. I think he's a professional and being out on the field to earn your money is motivation enough . Upton's and Cespede's best years might be behind them too. Who knows ? Yes I'd rather have one of them but really you would actually be upset at getting Gordon ? I'd be thrilled that the Sox actually got one of them at all. That's a fair point...as I'd rather have Gordon over nothing, but he certainly isn't my first choice. I'd be much happier with Cespedes or Upton.

I really don't see how Gordon would be that motivated regardless of where he signs. He's already won a World Series title and got a huge contract...what else is that important to him at this point? Unless he's a true competitor, I think his best years are behind him.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) I am not a huge Gordon fan but isnt defense a HUGE need for the Sox? Yes...but he's not worth giving a 4 or 5 year deal and a draft pick for IMO.

All I know is that I don't want Gordon anywhere close to a Sox uniform. Yeah, he's solid defensively, but he's also the oldest and worst hitter out of the elite outfielder group...not to mention that he has a QO attached too.

It'd be nice to see Gordon go to KC and then Upton or Cespedes can come to the Sox right afterwards.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 04:41 PM) A little too overly optimistic. I think you're gonna be disappointed. I'm not expecting him to put up those numbers I listed but I'd be ecstatic if he did. We'll see I guess.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 20, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) hahahahhahahhahha pass the blunt I'm just trying to be optimistic.

.315/14/75/.350 with 20 stolen bases.

The Bears f***ing suck.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 09:35 PM) I also think Gordon goes first, but there's no chance it's with the Cubs. They are done with big free agents. Agreed. If they do go after any more free agents, it'd be a low end pitcher or two IMO.

Segura is so bad...the only thing going for him is his age. I had him on my fantasy team at one point and he did literally nothing for me the entire time I had him. Thank god I found someone to trade him to.

Why would the Sox even consider Segura if Anderson is the future SS? Unless one of them is willing to make a position change, I don't see a deal for him happening.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 10:32 PM) Pretty bad loss. They had them several times and Detroit was awful at the line. Good homestand but it could have been clean. It's not over yet!!! Bring in Bairstow to hit the tying three pointer!!!

Holy crap.

This is a crazy game. I wanted to take a shower after the first overtime but I can't miss the ending now.

Like many other people have said over the past few days, Hahn will have to get creative in regards to payroll if he wants to go and get one of the big guns, but I'm confident that he'll be able to find a way to do it. Having LaRoche and Danks coming off the books after 2016 really helps too.

I still have a hunch that the Sox will get either Cespedes or Upton. We'll see.