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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:41 PM) Felix Hernandez agrees Exactly my point. Did a guy like him deserve to be surrounded by crap for that long? No. That's why Hahn needs to do something and make sure that Sale's prime years don't go to waste either. Nothing would make me happier than to see Sale pitching game 1 of a playoff series at the Cell.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:44 PM) I'm okay with Upton if they get rid of Melky and trade Eaton. Avi-Trayce-Upton is a much better OF. Much rather sign Upton than trade young players to rent an overrated fraud like Frazier. Please tell me you're kidding.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:23 PM) Eaton CF Cabrera LF/DH Abreu 1B Upton RF Frazier 3B LaRoche DH/Thompson LF Navarro/Avila C Saladino (maybe Ramirez) SS Sanchez 2B I'd still like to get a veteran at a middle infield spot (and one that can maybe hit in 2-spot). The bottom half of that lineup is still a black hole IMO.

Heyward and Longoria would be awesome but that won't happen.

No. No. No. Please don't let this happen. I'd much prefer Cespedes or Heyward.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:30 PM) I mean lets say Fulmer and Anderson are off limits... You gotta hope at that point that Montas is a good enough starting point and then let them take their pick of everyone else, but I have a feeling that the Reds are going to make some one pay something crazy for him, they are trying to rebuild that Franchise and Frazier is their best chip, if I'm them the conversation starts with Rodon. If the conversation starts with Rodon, then I pray to god that Hahn is smart enough to hang up the phone. Rodon is going to be a star in this league and I would cry if Hahn traded him for 2 years of Todd Frazier.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:25 PM) Yet you want no part of Todd Frazier. I wouldn't be opposed to him if the Sox don't give up Anderson or Fulmer. While I want the Sox to build a contender now, I'd hate for them to deplete the farm system yet again for a guy that looked to be on the decline at the end of last year. It's a really hard position for Hahn to be in. I'm glad I'm not a GM.

All I know is that it is not fair to him or the fans to have a future Hall of Fame talent (if he keeps this up), surrounded by a heaping pile of garbage except for a few guys. Hahn needs to get his s*** together and surround his stars with better complimentary players.

I like the idea of signing Heyward to an 8 year deal with an opt out after year 4, as he'd clearly test the market again at that point. The Sox would only be on the hook for his age 26-30 seasons, which would most likely be the prime of his career. Can't go wrong there IMO.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:59 PM) How does Thompson platoon with 2 guys in this scenario? Neither Parra not LaRoche should play against lefties. I'm assuming that Thompson would play against the lefties and Parra/LaRoche would play against the righties. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Hypothetically, if Schwarber did come to the Sox in a deal, where exactly would he play? DH I'm assuming?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 07:26 PM) Gammons just said Michael Brantley's shoulder surgery was more complicated than they thought and he will probably be out until August. That's good news for the Sox and terrible news for Cleveland. He's a talented player, it just seems as if he's never healthy.

Apparently this isn't official yet, though most scouts believe that he will in fact go to LA.

I want nothing to do with Frazier. Absolutely nothing.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) Except guys like Seager have experience. If you get Pederson, he's another guy with experience. They are exactly what you think Betts and Bryant are (young guys with experience). And yes, they started a significant amount of games last year. Here's some food for thought for you guys who feel like you can't trade Sale except in a for sure deal - Sale dropped in the draft because of his delivery. He's spent time on the DL already. You can't guarantee that his arm won't snap off can you? You can't guarantee his success over the next 6 years. Hell, everyone thought Danks was a sure thing since he didn't throw too hard, had a pretty good delivery and looked durable. Let's look at a situation in which dealing an ace pitcher can help your franchise, even 10 years down the line. Mark Mulder for Haren, Calero, and Barton in 2004. That trade is still paying dividends for Oakland: *Haren (and Connor Robertson) was traded in 2007 for Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland, Carlos Gonzalez, and Greg Smith. *Anderson was traded for Drew Pomeranz and Chris Jensen. *Pomeranz was just traded for Yonder alonso and Mark Rcyznzpnap Scrabble, who are on the 25 man roster. *Cunningham (and Scott Hairston) went to San Diego in 2010 for Kevin Kouzmanoff and Eric Sogard -- Sogard is still on the 25 man roster. *Carter (and Brad Peacock) were sent to Houston in 2013 for Fernando Rodriguez and Jed Lowrie, who is back on the roster now lol. Rodriguez pitched last year and is arby eligible and should bounce back and forth between Oakland and AAA in the bullpen. *CarGo and Smith were traded (with Huston Street) to Colorado for Matt Holliday in 2008. *Holliday was traded in 2009 for Clayton Mortensen, Shane Peterson, and Brett Wallace. *Wallace was traded for Michael Taylor, who was traded for Jake Sanchez. Sanchez is still in the A's minor league system. So right now in 2015 the A's can trace back 6 players currently with the team back to the Mark Mulder trade 11 years ago. Again, injuries are a risk with any MLB pitcher, not just Sale. You're grasping at straws if that's the only reason why you think he should be traded.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 03:23 PM) Bears suck Fixed it for you.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 03:04 PM) The 49ers are f***ing awful. So is Robbie Gould.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:18 AM) what?! what old, washed up, injured crap could the bulls have traded to get into the top 5 as far as picks? #facepalm #whatthef***# McDermott, Mirotic, Snell, a couple 1st rounders in future years, etc.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) I think they'd probably go after Heyward since they were interested in him before he was traded to Cardinals and have shown willingness to spend (Tanaka effort). I think it's possible that the Sox still go after Heyward anyway.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:12 AM) So you think they add a righty, keep Johnson, trade Q for a haul? Don't see them eating any money to move Danks so he should be locked into a spot. I'd love it if they'd throw Danks in the bullpen as the long man, but they won't do that.

Why would he go to the A's for anything else other than the money? They're going to be terrible.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Winter Meetings are in Nashville Gotcha. I figured it was a typo because Levine is an idiot.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) @MLBBruceLevine: White Sox right handed starter- Third baseman -middle infield help will be Nashville targets Nashville?

Lawrie would be an upgrade at 3rd base if he repeats his production from last year, and that was playing half his games at the Coliseum. Hahn should be all over him.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 08:34 PM) JD Davis is a 3B. '14 3rd round pick and hit .289/.370/.520 in High A last year Derek Fisher is an outfielder as well. Sandwich pick in the same '14 draft. Also advanced to High A last year and has a .283/.369/.468 so far in the minors with 48 steals Thanks. If Q or Sale are traded, I'd like a catcher and a third baseman at the very least since those are definitely positions of need for the Sox.