ChiSoxFanMike

YES!!!! f*** YES!!!!

He was terrible, but I liked him in a weird sort of way. I hope he resurrects his career in Atlanta.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 11:37 AM) Gordon Beckham- Braves 1.25 mil WHAT???? Someone signed him for actual money? I guess he'd be good as a defensive oriented utility man, but he can't hit at all.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 11:32 AM) Greinke is 32. Price will be 33 at the time of his opt out. The difference is one whole year I could've sworn that Greinke was 30. My bad.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 09:04 AM) Are you not seeing Greinke do the same thing? These tv deals are making the contracts bloat, if Price continues to be as good as he has been(playoffs exluded), then i see no reason why Price shouldnt explore his options. Greinke is much younger when he opted out than Price will be, not to mention that he also had a career year as well right before he had the choice to opt out. Who knows how good Price will be the year before he can opt out, and even if he is as good as Greinke was this past season, he's going to be 33 ish.

Why would Price opt out after 3 years? It's highly unlikely that he'd get a higher AAV than this new deal after those 3 years when he's 33 and most likely on the decline. But then again, these contracts teams are handing out are crazy so he probably will get more next time around.

I would've liked Aoki on the Sox, but there wouldn't have been any room for him unless Avi was traded or Melky moved to the DH spot.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) Because everyone was throwing everything into that thread and I guess people were complaining about have to read through it I would prefer to read everything in one place but that could just be me. It's not a big deal, I was just wondering how it got closed originally. I enjoyed reading the posts there.

Is there a way for one of the mods to unlock the offseason plan thread? I feel like all these proposals would be better in one place. I'm not quite sure why that thread was locked anyway.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 09:14 PM) Eaton Heyward Abreu Arenado Melky TFT Avila Sanchez Saladino Bench-Flowers, MJ, LaSuck, Shuck Rotation- Sale, Rodon, Johnson, Danks, Lackey? I dunno, this rotation could be pretty bad without Q. Besides Q, who else would need to be sent to the Rockies for Arenado? Montas?

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 06:01 PM) As long as the Sox keep doing a good job of scouting and developing pitching, I could honestly care less. Let em both go to FA and cash in, as long as its another team paying the obscene price. You make it sound like replacing Sale and Q would be easy. Those guys are 2 of the best pitchers in the AL. I don't disagree that the Sox are good at developing pitching, but it's not like they'll find another Sale or Q off of the scrap heap.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) 1000% agree. The Sox cannot afford to trade such cheap pitching and no team will offer up full value so I expect Sale and Q to fulfill their contracts. That makes me a happy Sox fan. The big question I'm wondering is if they'll stay on the Sox after those deals are over.

The only way I could see a guy like Sale or Q being traded is if it was a 3 team deal. Let's be real here. No matter how good and cheap they both are, no team is going to empty their farm for either one of them.

Although it's probably not likely, I could see a team getting desperate and overpaying for Sale or Q.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:41 PM) maybe you are right, but he did take a huge discount to sign an extension with the sox. sooooo who knows. Unless the Sox start winning consistently and he loves it here, I think there's less than a 1% chance that he signs another super team friendly deal. But like you said, who really knows until it happens?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:32 PM) Chris Sale on the open market in 4 years will easily top that deal. Unfortunately no way in hell it comes from us. Agreed. I would've loved to see him be a White Sox lifer, but that certainly won't happen now. The inflated contracts that these pitching free agents are getting is unreal and the Sox won't pony up the dough it'll take to keep him from going elsewhere. It'll be a very sad day when Chris Sale is in a uniform other than a White Sox one.

100% agree. I'd keep Rodon, Fulmer, and Johnson for the foreseeable future too. Sale/Q/Rodon/Fulmer/Johnson is DEFINITELY a more than formidable starting rotation for the next 3-4 years. Like you said, they have the pitching. They need to build around it.

Nothing would've made me happier then to see him go to the Cubs. Then they'd be stuck with 2 overpaid aging pitchers that would severely hamper their payroll flexibility when their young studs get older and more expensive. Oh well...

This deal just reaffirms what I already knew. If Chris Sale was on the market this year, there isn't a chance that he'd get less than $250 million.

Damn, I wanted him to go to the Cubs.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) I'd rather they take Melky and give us money. Hanley is basically Melky with a way better bat and a bad attitude. Who would replace Melky in the outfield? I'm not opposed to your idea, I'm just not sure who would replace him unless the Sox signed a big name guy like Upton, Cespedes, etc.

If the Red Sox eat at least half of his contract AND take LaRoche, I'd take him.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 09:50 AM) I hear ya and agree. I can live with Saladino/Sanchez up the middle for one season to see if their bats come around but my preference would be to get a SS, play Sanchez at 2B and use Saladino as the utility/platoon type. Problem with that is short stops are about as hard to come by as third baseman. One idea could be to sign Freese to play 3B, trade for Lawrie to play 2B, start Saladino at SS and use Sanchez as the utility. I still prefer Saladino as the utility due to his defensive versatility. The have their work cut out for them this off season. If this happened, I'd like to see Sanchez and Saladino flip flop their roles on the team. I don't know how good of a shortstop Sanchez would be at the MLB level, but he's younger than Saladino and has more upside IMO.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) Unfortunately his stats are nothing special in Korea: http://www.baseball-reference.com/register...amp;id=dffe1d5e Eric freaking Thames hit just about .400 with 47 homers. Those stats right there tell you everything you need to know about the Korean Leagues.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 05:13 PM) Too many offensive holes to fill to waste resources on more pitching. The Sox need to remain focused on acquiring young hitting talent. Just a friendly reminder that the Sox were 28th in runs scored last season. This is all that really needs to be said. Would Miller be a great pickup if the Sox had an offense like the Blue Jays do? Yes, but they don't, so the Sox need to save all their trade assets for hitting.