ChiSoxFanMike

The Sox need a young impact hitter much more than they need a young impact pitcher. I don't want him unless the Sox can steal him away.

QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 12:06 PM) Weren't the Tigers supposed to be trying to unload some salary this year? I was surprised to see them as the first to start throwing money around again. Their "window" of contending is closing fast. Their owners probably figure that they have to spend now to win now, since they obviously won't be winning in the future.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) It's that easy, isn't it? You just decide you want a guy traded and one of the other 29 teams magically agrees to a trade. LMAO. I was thinking the same thing but I didn't want to come off as rude.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 11:12 AM) I have some similar thoughts to this one, however, I think part of the reason we all feel this way is because of how poor a product the Sox have put on the field. It has been truly pitiful and awful to watch. Very few guys are exciting, our defense is terrible. Basically the entire brand of White Sox baseball has stunk for people who enjoy the game and thus it has became extremely pitiful to watch. As I say more now than I did when I was younger, sports are entertainment, you need to be entertained and nothing about the recent Sox stretch has been entertaining (outside of last off-season). They have consistently came out of the gates slow and as a result, have generally been out of contention for the vast majority of the long baseball seasons. Contrast that to say the Royals brand of baseball, where you know if you watch on any given night, you are probably going to see some stellar defensive plays and baserunning for that matter (stolen bases, imo, are exciting, especially when it happens in close games). Baseball does need to speed its pace of play up. Manfred seems to get that so I'm optimistic of where they will take it. Agreed. If the Sox were as exciting now as they were in 2005, all these people that say it's boring would certainly watch more of it.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 09:19 AM) I really don't think either should be moved honestly. If the Sox don't upgrade that position then you need a fall back plan. Micah has the chance for better offense and Sanchez is the better defender. If the Sox say go with Sanchez next year and he can't hit worth a lick then you have Micah to back him up. Sox can't afford to keep thinning the middle infield anymore . In my theory, Lawrie would replace whoever is traded. But I get your point.

Any AL team that gives Cueto a 6 year/$120 million or more deal is crazy. He's way past his prime, especially if he stays in the AL. Maybe he'd be worth that contract to an NL team, but he was basically like Samardzija in the AL.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 08:44 AM) i agree, i would move johnson b/c sanchez defense is already has be spotlighted, I think Micah's bat is much better, but then again, his defense is terrible. Sanchez is already an elite defender, but only has an average bat. I think with more experience though, he can become a serviceable hitter.

If one of Johnson/Sanchez were moved, I can't decide who I'd rather see traded. Both have pros and cons. I'd probably lean towards keeping Sanchez and trading Johnson if push came to shove, but I really don't know.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 07:23 AM) What does this even mean? Its not like the sox are a disruptive bad clubhouse I was referring to poor decision-making that Sox players usually have on the field (terrible baserunning, low baseball IQ, etc)

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 07:09 AM) Lawrie has a history of negativity and poor decision-making: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/5/16/3...jays-throws-bat http://nesn.com/2013/05/brett-lawries-dele...al-follow-up-2/ http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/27/blue-...tude-adjustment http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/4/20/8455...ace-to-baseball http://tinyurl.com/oa8dfy7 http://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/...p;sub=102125185 If this is truly the case, then he'd fit in with the Sox just fine.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 01:15 AM) Trading for Lawrie and signing Hwang would give some nice infield options too. Can have Lawrie slide to 2B. What would happen to Sanchez and Micah Johnson in this scenario? Would they be traded?

The great Balbino! I want the Sox to pick him up just so I can call him that on a regular basis.

Is Lawrie known as being a decent defender? If he could hit .250 with 20 homers and play decent defense, I'd be all for acquiring him. He'd be a major upgrade over Gillaspie/Saladino/Olt.

The problem with a Lawrie/Saladino/Sanchez/Abreu infield is that there is very little power there besides Abreu. I don't see Sanchez and Saladino hitting over 10 homers each and Lawrie isn't known for his power either. I guess I'd be ok with that group if they all hit for high averages and played sparkling defense, but I don't see that as being realistic.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 05:27 PM) If Cinci's price is indeed through the roof, and I believe it is, then I hope the Sox pull something off for Lawrie. The Sox farm is not in good enough shape yet to pull off a trade for a player that had the second half Frazier had. Forget Frazier, trade for Lawrie and then find a SS. What kind of SS would you want the Sox to get if they did indeed acquire Lawrie? Would you prefer the Sox to get a guy on a long term deal (like Ian Desmond), or a 1 year stopgap (Asdrubal Cabrera, maybe even Alexei)?

I'd prefer Lawrie to Frazier to be honest. Sure, Frazier has more power and is a much better overall player now, but he would require much more in a trade than Lawrie would and he's also quite a bit older as well.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 12:07 AM) Nothing would make me happier then to see the Tigers spend $100+ million on a guy like Zimmermann when they're clearly not good enough to win the division. QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 06:25 AM) As a Sox fan, I feel this would be a wise move for Detroit. Go right ahead and tie up 100M+ in another contract that could become another albatross like Verlander's in a few years. Assuming Zimmermann gets the speculated 6 years. I think Zimmermann could hold his value for another 3 or 4 years but not 6. Go for it Tigers! Great minds think alike.

Nothing would make me happier then to see the Tigers spend $100+ million on a guy like Zimmermann when they're clearly not good enough to win the division.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) Haha, and your point is... Nothing, I was just curious because I thought I remembered him having a son.

I thought he had a son?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 28, 2015 -> 11:17 AM) I hear that Marcus Stroman kid is pretty good. I don't think it's fair for him to have to be the ace of that staff quite yet. He's still super young and coming off of an injury plagued season.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 27, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) The Jays now have their very own John Danks, for less money. I was thinking the exact same thing. If they blew $36 million on Happ, why didn't they try to save the money and then go after Price? Yes, I realize that $36 and $200+ million are very different contracts, but the Jays already have enough #4-#5 starter types. They need an ace.

^^^ I could live with that, although the Avi trade really doesn't make any sense from the Sox perspective. They don't need another lefty pitcher, especially one coming off TJ surgery.

Is Assdribble really that much better than Alexei?

Watch him go over there and hit .300 with 30+ homers.