ChiSoxFanMike

I mean you could also make the argument that taking on that money was worth it if Kelenic is a key part of a Cease trade, as Cease is very underpaid over the next 2 seasons compared to pitchers of a similar talent level as him. But who knows if the Sox would even want him.

Yep.

2 years of arbitration level salaries is still plenty valuable considering free agent pitching contracts now. I mean Lance Lynn just got $10 million for 2024 and he was atrocious this past season.

Well the contract is an important aspect of it. Cease will make less money over the next 2 seasons combined than a guy like Tyler Glasnow will make in 2024 alone. Combine that with the other factors I mentioned and it makes sense why Cease is a valued commodity. Is he flawed? Of course. But teams will still give up a haul for him I’d assume.

With all due respect, this is why you are not a GM. You are acting like 2022 was the only good year Cease had. He had 3.5+ fWAR in both 2021 and 2023 as well. He’s also durable, controlled for 2 more seasons, has good stuff, and is not expensive. Those are all important factors that you are overlooking.

Off topic, but does anyone else get a pop up ad whenever they open a thread on this site? It’s very annoying.

This is more appealing to me than just trading with Atlanta straight up.

Is it a stretch to think the Braves got Kelenic to include in a package for Cease?

Morosi said the Giants are in on Cease. Not sure if that’s new info but I hadn’t seen that until now.

Please give us some nuggets I’m begging.

https://x.com/jonmorosi/status/1731450645675196609?s=46&t=Wr6gOVOo8Za8Bnez19t84w

AJSS and Waldrep are somewhat intriguing but yeah I’m hoping someone else steps up and offers more.

I don’t agree that they have “a lot” of pitching, but yeah that Braves offer is underwhelming.

It’s not that he sucks. It’s that he has a ton of miles on his legs, is on the decline, and is very expensive for Jerry standards.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/mlb-free-agent-rumors-martin-maldonado-padres-marlins-white-sox-astros.html?utm_source=twitter

I’d say Caulfield has more credibility than Jim Bowden.

I haven’t seen one rumor about the Rangers offering a package led by Leody Taveras. Seems to me you are just doomsday posting.

Why are you assuming they are getting only garbage offers for Cease?

Might not be a bad idea to do that, especially for pitchers.

They can take multiple Rule 5 guys if they want to, right? Because that might be a good idea given how much trash is on the 40-man.

Hopefully tomorrow is D Day. Need some Sox moves in my life.

I mean this is obvious stuff and he’s acting like it’s some top secret info.

Kjerstad or Cowser + Ortiz is really the obvious solution here, it’s just a matter of it Baltimore will stop prospect hugging and give them up.

Well then it makes sense to target a guy who can stick at SS in the Cease trade.

How do we still not know the dollar value here?