ChiSoxFanMike

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The Mariners already have a lot of pitching, why do they need Cease?

Need Horton and Caissie if that happens.

Hell no.

Agreed. They could absolutely still be in the running for Cease especially if they do trade Matz.

Obviously they should take the best package offered, but ideally I think the two best players coming back for Cease should be a left handed hitting OF and a MLB ready SP as those are 2 of the most glaring needs at the moment.

No thanks on Kremer. 27 years old already and has limited ceiling. Go for someone younger as the 3rd piece.

SPILL THE BEANS

You asked why they wanted him at all. You didn’t ask why they would want him as a focal point. Those are two very different things.

Why wouldn’t they want him? He’s already in the majors, hits lefty, is good defender, has a lot of team control. Checks a lot of boxes.

Need more rumors.

I’m going to be disappointed if they trade with the Dodgers and Outman isn’t coming back to the Sox.

The way I see it, they need to rip the bandaid off now and trade Cease this offseason. I don’t see how holding him into next season accomplishes anything. Yeah, maybe he will pitch better than he did in 2023, but it’s also possible that he could have another down year or even worse, get hurt. Not worth the risk to me. Cash in now.

PCA is never going to hit at the MLB level. No thanks.

Where did you see this?

Castillo fetched 2 top 100 prospects and 2 low level pitchers. I think Castillo was better than Cease is now, but Cease has half a season more control now than Castillo did so I think the return should be roughly the same.

That’s not even a remotely comparable situation to Cease right now. The Reds trading Luis Castillo is a lot more similar to where Cease is at now and the Reds got a good amount for Castillo.

Vazquez wasn’t that bad. There will always be a demand for pitchers who are durable and have the stuff that Cease has. Add on the fact that he has 2 years of control left and they should be able to get a nice haul for him.

That’s their problem then. Cease is durable, has good stuff, and is relatively cheap for the next 2 seasons. Any contender should want a guy like that in their rotation.

People keep floating Brendan Donovan’s name, I like him but feel like the centerpiece for Cease should have more upside than he does.

It was a small sample size, but Cowser looked horrific at the MLB level this season. Would rather go for Kjerstad personally.

How can you act like you know everything about everything but not know who Marcus Thames is?

No point in picking up Liam’s option.

I don’t think they have the ammo to get Cease unless they trade guys from their MLB team.