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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 11:28 AM) You have to love the deal from Anderson's perspective as well Imagine you are a 23 year old kid and you just signed a deal for a guaranteed $25 million pre tax. Welcome to the 1% Tim This is arguably even better from the player's point of view because the team is clearly invested in him moving forward and is willing to guaranty his future Rodon would be taking a pretty big risk by not taking a deal somewhat similar because the risk of injuries for pitchers is much higher than position players. Boras might be his agent, but if a player says "I want to ensure my future...do it" there's not much stopping him. Rodon taking a hard line approach could end up costing him millions if he gets injured prior to reaching free agency. Regardless, the Sox control his right through 2022, so it's not like he is goign anywhere anytime soon. Agreed. It's a great deal for both sides. Anderson is financially set for life now and the Sox potentially got a steal of a deal and locked up one of their core pieces at the same time. Anderson will be in his prime for the duration of this extension so I'd have to think this deal is a win for the Sox as long as Anderson is a positive WAR player. I love Rodon but I don't see him signing an extension here. Hope I'm wrong.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 10:26 AM) There is also a marketing element to this. The Sox want to keep their fans excited during what should be a somewhat painful rebuilding process and locking up a promising young talent helps build some goodwill. Perhaps this move is a year early, but the downside risk is so low that it's worth maintaining some positive momentum with the fans. This another reason why I fully expect us to land Luis Robert if he's declared in this free agent period. Hahn will want some to show some early signs of progress before the second half of this rebuild takes shape in June & July. Do you really think the Sox are the frontrunners for Robert? I'd certainly hope so but they're hard to read because the front office keeps things quiet for the most part.

I honestly don't know how anyone couldn't like this deal from the team's perspective.

It's essentially like $4 million a year and the Sox will have him for his entire prime. I think it's a great deal even if Anderson only turns out to be a 1-2 WAR player yearly (obviously I hope he becomes much more than that).

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:08 AM) I'm kinda confused until we know how much additional control we have. Bobby said the Sox got 2 additional years out of him, so I'm assuming there's 2 option years at the back end of the deal. Supposedly the Sox control him through 2025 now.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 08:03 AM) 6 years, 25 million. No word on how many options and how much money Wow, that seems like an absolute steal. Kudos to Hahn for getting it done. Thanks man.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 21, 2017 -> 07:50 AM) 6 years plus options, it's official Do you have more details please? Are they team options? How much money is the contract worth?

This would be a great move. Buy out his pre-arbitration years, and add a couple years onto the back end of the deal. It's good for both sides and Anderson is a core piece that would've probably been extended at some point anyway. Hahn is a wizard at these sort of things.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 20, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) I could be mistaken, I haven't paid a ton of attention to Soxtalk the past couple months as I have been fully immersed in CBB, but I thought you were one of the big tank guys. I'd definitely like to see them tank this year. With that being said, I always want them to win the games I go to in person.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 20, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) Are you going to be rooting for the Tigers? Nope. Why would I? I always want the Sox to win the games I go to.

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Can't wait to be there Opening Day. Q vs. Verlander baby. Should be a lot of fun.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 20, 2017 -> 11:50 AM) Yes. Neither have anything left to prove at AAA. The Sox are likely to be terrible, so may as well give them as much PT as possible to see if we have anything before moving on. Not like service time is a concern with those 2. Put up or shut up time. True. Unless the light bulb suddenly turns on for one of them, they're really nothing more than filler to keep the seat warm for Moncada. But that's fine in a tank year I guess.

What's the point of carrying both Leury and Yolmer? Aren't they redundant? Is it just because both are out of options?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 20, 2017 -> 11:42 AM) How do you get 5 bench guys? Davidson as DH and Narvaez as C. Bench: Leury, Sanchez, Soto and Asche. I forgot about DH, my bad.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 20, 2017 -> 11:31 AM) Yep. At this point looks like we're pretty much down to the last position player between Asche and Liriano. Have to imagine Davidson, Leury and Sanchez will all break camp with the team as they're out of options. You think they'll carry 5 guys on the bench (including the backup catcher)? Seems unlikely to me.

Not sure Gonzalez in Fenway would be a smart idea for Boston but he wouldn't cost a ton either. Maybe Swihart and a lottery ticket for him?

I'm just glad he isn't hurt.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 20, 2017 -> 08:00 AM) He's a professional broadcaster that is well versed in multiple sports and went to school for his craft. He is inherently more qualified than the current version of Hawk. Now if Hawk were the analyst, that'd be different. I grew up with Hawk like everyone else did. He takes over broadcasts though and minimizes Steve Stone. The Hawk schtick has run its course as far as the broadcast is concerned. The home games sound like a modern baseball broadcast. The road games are two guys doing separate games because of their dislike for working with the other on most nights. What does being well versed in other sports have to do with a being a baseball announcer though? And I don't know about you but I feel like Steve is much more arrogant when he's with Benetti than Hawk.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 19, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) Frazier you trade for pretty much anything you can get. He has zero trade value. Same with Abreu. I don't even know where to start with this.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 19, 2017 -> 09:56 PM) Sure. One guy is good at his job and the other is Ken Harrelson How is Benetti good at his job? I don't consider the same corny jokes over and over again and Sox math to make him "good".

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 12:08 PM) I think what this thread proves is a team's PBP guy, with a few exceptions, is pretty much like the President. Half love them, half hate them. Agreed. I know I'm in the minority regarding my favorable view of Hawk, but his emotion and excitement in the booth when the team is doing well is so fun to listen to...as is his rants and sadness when the team isn't doing well. Benetti just isn't like that. You can't tell if the Sox are up 10-0 or down 10-0 on any particular night when he's announcing. It's the same corny jokes and dime a dozen announcing that any other team has. Hawk is unique and I love him for that very reason despite his flaws.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 11:40 AM) While I can appreciate his Sox homerism, I grew tired of his constant complaining about the umps years ago. He's the biggest reason I listen to the radio while watching the TV on mute. I wish him nothing but the best but IMHO it's time to move on. I dislike the Farmer/DJ combo a lot more than Benetti. Farmer seems so monotonous and DJ is just boring.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) Hawk is, today at least, an awful announcer. He throws in a constant stream of drawl-tinged one-liners that got old a decade ago pretty constantly, leaves huge gaps of silence when he's not in a good mood, and utterly refuses to acknowledge most any useful statistical measures. He spends half his broadcasts telling old war stories, and they're the same ones. My question is, what is he actually good at? I will say that when the team is doing well, he's obviously very excited about it and that helps bring the fans in emotionally. I think that's his only positive quality in the job, to be honest. That's a fair assessment. I disagree, but I see where you're coming from. I don't think anyone can deny that Hawk's announcing talents have gradually gotten worse (even since I've been a fan since 2005), but his health and eyesight is probably starting to go unfortunately which is out of his control. But I've grown up with Hawk announcing Sox games and his presence on the broadcast is one of the most unique and fun things about being a Sox fan in my opinion. I'm not saying Benetti is bad...I just don't particularly care for him. He's just a prototypical announcer. There's nothing unique about him.

Can one of the Anti-Hawk and Pro-Benetti people please explain why they dislike Hawk and like Benetti?