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☕ 4/21 Breakfast in Boston - 10:10 AM 🏃
WBWSF replied to DoUEvenShift's topic in 2025 Season in Review
How much longer are they going to start Vargas. He looks like he couldn't hit me. I don't know who they would play at third but there should be a change sooner rather than later. -
You might be right about losing fans. I'm sure you remember how bad the Chicago Cardinals were their last 10 years in Chicago. When they left to go to St. Louis not too many people cared. Losing year after year took a toll on their fan base.
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Very simple, he's making nothing but money with this bad team. Low payroll=more moola for the owner.
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Obviously JR doesn't care how bad the team is.
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Yes the team is disgraceful but even worse is that ownership is content with this situation. As long as the payroll is low and their making nothing but money, that's all that seems to matter to them.
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One of the few highlights watching the White Sox the last few years was watching the pre and post game shows on TV. Most fans thought that Frank Thomas was tremendous on those shows. Yet he is not on the shows this year. I can't help but wonder why he wasn't brought back.
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Another guy who seems to have sold his soul to JR is Steve Stone. He has become a big time houseman for JR.
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Getz rubs me as if he does what he is told to do by JR. It doesn't say much for him as a person. I realize that these GM jobs don't come around very often. But still, if I'm right about him following orders from JR he should resign. He can't be baseball stupid and has to realize this team isn't any good. He could have easily made this team better this off season and didn't. I've mentioned in the past how I wanted to be interviewed for the GM job by JR. If JR would have had the good sense to hire me and if I had my hands tied by him I would resign.
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The team always had trouble drawing big crowds in April. I'm beginning to believe that small crowds will happen during the warmer months.
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At the beginning of the season I didn't think the team could lose more games than last season. I'm starting to think it could happen.
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I realize its not going to happen but wouldn't it be something to see JR hold a press conference and take questions from the media?
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For years fans were always led to believe that JR liked baseball more than basketball. I don't believe it. A few months ago JR announced that he was spending millions of dollars on the area around The United Center. If he likes baseball so much was it too much for him to spend some money for some hitters on the White Sox this past off season? I've lived thru some bad years. The 1968-1970 teams were bad. And 4 of the 5 teams Veeck owned his 2nd ownership were bad also. This is a new low. The team can't hit. The middle of the order Robert Jr, Vaughn and Vargas don't look like they can hit me. If you traded these 3 guys in a package you wouldn't get a decent player in return. You would think if an owner really cared about baseball he would be ashamed with this present team. I've touched on this before that this situation is okay with JR having the low payroll. Low payroll= big profits for the owners. How much money does he need?
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If JR had spent some money this past off season on 2 hitters the record would be alot better. Obviously he is content with this losing team AND LOW PAYROLL.
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This team is so bad I'm beginning to think the crowds will even be small during the warmer months. The team simply isn't any good and most of all can't hit. I noticed that the White Sox have 10 bobblehead giveaways this year. Not one bobblehead is of any present player. Every bobblehead is of somebody from the past.
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When JR bought the team he signed free agents Fisk and Luzinski which made the fan base happy. I would think new owmers would go the same route and sign some free agents.
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With all the justified criticism of Vaughn, I can't help but wonder how much longer the team is going to go with Vargas? He simply can't hit. I don't know who would replace him but some kind of change at 3rd base has to happen.
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Robert Jr. Dodgers Trade Rumor Per Nightengale
WBWSF replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Terrible trade. Simply a salary dump. -
A forgotten part of White Sox history is how JR rejected the original design of the present stadium. He wanted and got the 2nd level of suites which help make the upper deck what it is. All he had to do is keep the original design and add more rows on the lower level like PNC in Pittsburgh. They're given away those upper deck seats and nobody wants to sit up there. I've always thought that JRs biggest mistake of his ownership was how this present stadium turned out.
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A few years ago I went up to the upper deck and just out of curiousity I went to the highest seat in the upper deck, Section 558, Row 21, Seat12. I was scared. Its awful up there. I have nothing bad to say about the lower deck and nothing good to say about the upper deck.
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The Rate is 2 different parks. The lower deck is great. The upper deck is a nightmare.
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White Sox organization must not think highly of Elko. He's hitting in the minors this year and Vaughn looks like a complete bust. Maybe they're too stubborn to admit they made a mistake with Vaughn.
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If this listless team keeps losing games I wouldn't be surprised if the manager gets fired before Getz gets fired. I would think if this losing keeps up the team might have a new manager by the All Star break.
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I don't think the league will save us. I just wish that JR would leave the scene. Preferably selling the team.
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I wish MLB would step in. I don't think anything like this has ever happened before in MLB. Years ago the St. Louis Browns and Connie Macks A's were financially poor franchises and usually sold off or traded their players because of lack of money. JR is not poor. He is a multi billionaire. This doesn't say much about his character. You would think any wealthy owner would be ashamed of this team. Obviously he's not. This whole situation tells me he is content with this losing team AND LOW PAYROLL. This is going to be a very profitable year for JR and his investors. How much money does he need? Most people couldn't spend what he has. Yet he seems to want more and more money.
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For years we've all been told how much JR loves baseball. Supposedly he is happier with the White Sox WS Championship than he is with the Bulls championships. He supposedly watches every White Sox game. We're told he lives and dies with every game. If all this is true imagine what it would be like if he didn't care about baseball. This team is digging itself into another hole with no end in sight .If they would have added a couple of hitters and one good reliever this past off season this team would be 6-4 instead of 2-8. Obviously JR is content with this losing team and very low payroll.