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Moncada is striking out a lot. What I find interesting about his strikeouts is that he strikes out a great deal with his bat on his shoulder. Today he struck out 4 times without swinging. He seems to look at strike 3 alot. Is it possible that the strike zone is different in Cuba than the one here in the USA? Is he not use to the strike zone here?
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Last night after Moncada struck out to end the game (his 3rd strikeout of the game) some of the fans started booing. Maybe this lovefest with Moncada and this rebuild is starting to come to an end. It seems that alot of White Sox fans are tired of this losing.
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Keep in mind that the team is 27th in attendance in MLB. But according to Forbes magazine they are 14th in revenue. Thre's not any place in the USA where the team would move to and make the money that they are making here in Chicago. Also ESPN has recently pointed out that the White Sox are 30th in MLB payroll. The White Sox payroll is the lowest in MLB. Hopefully when the lease on the stadium expires in 2029 the White Sox will have new ownership and will build a new stadium somewhere in the Chicago area. If they don't get a new stadium I would think the State of Illinois will give them the same deal they have now. What choice would the State of Illinois have? What else would they do with the stadium?
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Assuming the White Sox trade some players before the deadline, will they then bring up Jimenez and Kopech? When they brought up Moncado last year Hahn said he had nothing left to prove in the minors. Looking at the numbers Jimenez has been putting up in the minors, I think its fair to say he doesn't have anything left to prove there.
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FS: Have the Sox ever had a prospect like Eloy in AAA?
WBWSF replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in FutureSox Board
You should post here more often. You'll find that there are real White Sox fans here and the people who run this site are very open minded about everything that relates to the White Sox. I can't say the same thing about the mope who runs WSI. -
FS: Have the Sox ever had a prospect like Eloy in AAA?
WBWSF replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in FutureSox Board
I always found it interesting that Fox, Aparicio, Landis and Pierce couldn't believe that Veeck traded Callison, Battey, Romano, Cash and Mincher. They knew they were young talented players and Veeck traded them for older players( Minoso, Sievers) who were past their prime. Veecks trades hurt the White Sox franchise for years. -
I talked to some Cardinals fans when the Cardinals played the White Sox this past week. They thought the Cardinals manager would be fired at the end of the season if the team didn't make the 2018 Playoffs. They thought it was bad that the team hasn't been in the playoffs since 2015. They fired there manager yesterday, even tho he has never managed a losing team and he managed the Cardinals into 4 playoffs. From what I know the fans are happy about the manager getting fired. Imagine what the Cardinals fans would think if they had teams as bad as the White Sox have been the last 10 years.
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I was at the game also. It was so bad it didn't even bother me. Maybe you can't imagine it getting worse now but I sure don't see this team getting better anytime soon. The beginning of this so called rebuild is not working out. Too many of the young players have not performed well. (Moncada, Giolito, Fulmer and Anderson) The only young player who has done well is Lopez. I sat by 3 Cardinals fans last night and they couldn't believe that Hahn has been the GM for 6 years and this team is as bad as it is. They're surprised that Hahn still has his job.
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Hypothetical: Would you trade Moncada for Arenado?
WBWSF replied to Buehrlesque's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I would make the trade in a heartbeat. I would throw Giolito, Fulmer AND Rick Hahn in the deal. I would take the Rockies GM in return for Hahn. This would be a first in MLB history, two GMs traded for each other. In 1960 Cleveland and Detroit traded managers for the first and only time in MLB history. -
Looking at your team for 2019 tells me that you're probably right on your roster. I don't think the team is going to spend any money on any free agents. All in all it looks like another long season in 2019. 2019 will be year 7 of the dreadful Rick Hahn era.
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A number of people have posted here as to when the White Sox will be Playoff Contenders. Some people say 2019, 2020, 2021 and some think 2022. I wish I could be optimistic about this but I can't. The team hasn't had a winning season since 2012. I'm not talking about White Sox contending for the playoffs. I just wonder when will the team finish with a winning record? A winning season would provide some hope for the future.
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Race for the worst 2018 record (Top 5 pick) again
WBWSF replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'm not the least bit upset that the White Sox are a profitable business. I'm glad they're making money. If they weren't making money the franchise would be moved out of state. I'm upset with this ownership/management team. The team hasn't had a winning season since 2012. I sure don't see things getting better soon. This losing year after year is terrible. -
Race for the worst 2018 record (Top 5 pick) again
WBWSF replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I will repeat what I said recently. Forbes magazine said the White Sox franchise has a gross of $260 million dollars. The 2018 payroll is $60 million dollars. The 2019 payroll will be less than the 2018 payroll. Even with other expenses this franchise is very profitable. There are at least 3 groups of people that want to buy the White Sox. The major reason why they want to buy the team is simply because they can make money. -
Giolito has no business being on the White Sox team. Fulmer couldn't get anybody out and was sent down. Giolito can't get anybody out and he should be sent down. Roach at least deserved a chance to see how he could do with the White Sox.
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Donn Roach was 9-2 at Charlotte and was recently named the White Sox Minor League pitcher of the month. He's leaving to go to Japan. I take it he thought he had no future with the White Sox. I guess this means we're going to see Giolito (with his ERA of 7) in the White Sox starting rotation the rest of the season.
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Interesting lineup/roster you have for 2019. I would agree with your thoughts. I don't think the White Sox are going to spend any money on any free agents. I've always thought that this rebuild would be done as cheaply as possible.
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Maybe in 2021, or maybe in 2022, or maybe in 2023. Always remember what Bill Veeck said." 5 year plans usually lead to new 5 year plans".
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Irrational fondness of a player who completely sucks
WBWSF replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I realize the 2018 White Sox season is a rebuild/tanking/ throw up the white flag season. Still, this Lucas Giolito has to be sent down to the minors. He has pitched one good game the last month and his ERA is almost 7.00 again. It looks like the team is not going to bring up Kopech anytime soon but why not bring up Roach? He has pitched good enough to at least be given a chance with the White Sox. The White Sox finally demoted Fulmer. Its time to demote Giolito. -
30th anniversary of the clocks running backwards
WBWSF replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Believe it or not but I had someone who works for the White Sox tell me a few years ago that the one place where they would make more money would be Mexico City. -
30th anniversary of the clocks running backwards
WBWSF replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
According to Forbes magazine the White Sox are 14th in MLB revenue. If they moved elsewhere I don't think the revenue would match what they're making in Chicago. -
30th anniversary of the clocks running backwards
WBWSF replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If it wasn't for Illinois Governor Jim Thompson the White Sox would have moved to Florida. Former sports writer Jerome Holtzman said JR took a vote of the White Sox investors and half of them wanted to go to Florida. Eddie Einhorn was walking around with Florida White Sox shirts and he definitely wanted to go to Florida. JR and Einhorn had airline reservations July 1 to sign the official papers to move to Florida. One of the positives of the whole situation was that when the team stayed in Chicago Einhorn sold most of his shares of the White Sox to JR and "Fast Eddie " disappeared from the Chicago scene. I'm looking forward to the day when JR is no longer the owner of the White Sox. I'm just hoping its sooner rather than later. -
I find it ironic that JR fired Larry Himes after the 1990 season and he keeps Hahn as GM. Himes rebuilt the White Sox franchise in 4 years. He added Thomas, Ventura, Mcdowell, Fernandez, Sosa Johnson and Alvarez. After winning 94 games in 1990 JR didn't renew his contract. Hahn has been here 6 long miserable seasons and has not had one winning season and he keeps his job. Some people think the White Sox might not have a winning season until 2021/2022.
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Adam Engel now has a higher batting average than Moncada.
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Paul Sullivan wrote a column about the White Sox this past Friday. He's not impressed with this rebuild/tanking/throwing up the white flag. He seems to think that this team might not be good until 2021 or maybe even 2022. I hope he's wrong about the time table. If he's right about 2021/2022 will anybody even care about this team at that time?. The 2018 attendance is down 20% from 2017. JR was suppose to be opposed to this rebuild for a long time because he thought it might destroy the franchise. I can't help but wonder if that is going to happen.
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There's no way Boston makes that trade. Now that I've given this some thought if the White Sox packaged Moncada, Giolito and Fulmer together does anybody think the White sox could get anything of worth in return?