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QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:23 PM) @PatrickHoward50 I was just told 6/125 https://twitter.com/barstoolWSD/status/682022766078504961 That guy is also saying the Angels offered Cespedes $125 million. Does he have any credibility?

Right now I'm 52% Cespedes, 48% Gordon.

So is there no chance Cespedes can go to RF?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 02:00 PM) @ckamka If the White Sox were to get Cespedes, at least Quintana wouldn't have to face him... 9-15, 2 doubles, triple, 4 HR, BB, 0 strikeouts That's why I hope if the Sox don't get Cespedes that he doesn't go back to Detroit (aside from the obvious they're a division rival reason).

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) Another good comp In his last 3 full seasons with the Cubs, during his age 34-36 seasons, Soriano put up WARs of 2.7, 1.1, and 3.5. If Cespedes did the same for the last 3 years of his deal I think we'd all take it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:22 AM) Part of the problem is the White Sox historically have never been known to break ground in the escalation of player salaries...and a deal similar to Heyward's would do just that. Dick Allen, first player to break $250,000 in salary... with the White Sox. Albert Belle, first player to break $10 million in salary... with the White Sox.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:36 AM) The #STLCards and the #Rockies discussing a trade that could send an OF to the #Cardinals, per @jonmorosi via @MLBNetwork http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben...6e42fa2746.html Writer argues for CarGo over Dickerson/Blackmon. That would take another competitor out of the running for Gordon. Get it done guys.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 09:09 AM) You wanna be really sad.....I know hindsight. Imagine Stroman in the rotation this year. Also during this draft I recall people on this site stating Giolito was worth the risk....as was Appeal. Wacha was still there as well. http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/in...type=year_round You could say the same thing about the cubs though as well. Nothing will ever top taking a CF two picks before Trout.

I think Upton has the highest demands in both money and additional clauses, which is why we're not as active in pursuing him compared to the other too, I doubt it has anything to do with Upton's "lack of interest" in playing here.

Buxton just turned 22 10 days ago and has all of 138 PA at the ML level, of course he's still going to have plenty of supporters, as well he should.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 05:40 PM) And yet, at the suggestion that the Sox do something like that, people squawk to high heaven and demand trading young players for "proven veterans". And, of couse, Kenny Williams obliged. (thankfully Hahn negotiates the deals once the proven veteran is identified). McCutchen is a better player than anyone on the Sox, and is an absolute star, so they better be careful about trading him. You're not talking about Eaton again, are you? Not even close to the same thing.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 03:33 PM) Is it though? I think there are like 13 teams that could potentially make the playoffs. There are good teams but not really anyone that's a favorite. NL has 8 teams battling for 5 spots and 7 terrible teams. I'd say all 15 AL teams could make the playoffs, even the A's had a positive run differential most of the season and they underperformed their Pythagorean record by 9 games. They always seem to contend when people don't expect them to as well. The top NL teams might be a bit better than the top AL teams, but I'd say every AL team is better than the Reds, Brewers, Marlins, Phillies, Braves, Rockies and Padres. That's half of the NL right there. There's no easy wins in the AL.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 01:17 PM) He slow down the market these guys want J Heyward money now. Is your grammar really that bad? This is the 4th or 5th post of yours I've seen with grammar so bad it hurts to read it. Maybe English isn't his first language?

If Alvarez does well at AA this year, what's the best-case scenario for him?

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 10:36 AM) With all the current focus on a potential high profile addition of a big bat/outfielder, are the Sox neglecting the obvious need for a RHP in the starting rotation? Sure EJ looked pretty good in the final month of 2015, but it's a different deal when the games are meaningful. Who can the Sox try to land to bolster the rotation? I am intrigued by Tim Lincecum, who is coming off surgery and supposed to throw for teams in early 2016. Could he be a good fit at the right price? I agree that'd it be nice to have one more SP for depth, but we also really need to see what we have in EJ. Any veteran SP is likely only going to sign if he's guaranteed a spot in the rotation, and I don't want to kick out EJ until he proves he doesn't belong.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 10:42 AM) Parra barely put up a positive WAR. Would much rather get Span Just looked up the numbers again, I didn't realize Parra's defense fell off that much, yeesh. So Parra/Garcia could maybe put up a league average RF offensively, but would still be a disaster on defense. You're right, Span would be a much better fit.

A Garcia/Parra platoon in RF would probably be OK offensively, but it would still be a big disappointment if it meant we're not getting one of the Big 3.

I know Upton has played mostly LF the last 3 seasons, but he has played in RF for most of his career and in Atlanta Heyward was in RF so the move made sense. Wouldn't he play RF if we signed him?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 07:56 AM) That's all fine and good in the NL. Everyone in the Central has a chance. You have Houston, Texas, LAA and the Mariners have spent a lot in recent years...so the A's are the only team we can eliminate. In the East, who doesn't have a shot at the playoffs? The Red Sox will be better, that's for sure. You have the Jays and Yankees. The Orioles have lots of money left to spend. So TB then? Two teams we can eliminate...that's it. Thirteen teams could make the playoffs, not the greatest odds with our current team...just like at the end of July last year. Similar logjam. I actually wouldn't write off any teams in the AL. Tampa Bay won 80 games despite being ravaged by injuries, and they have great pitching and defense. I also wouldn't be too surprised to see the A's compete. But to your point, should you only try to compete when you have a virtual guarantee at the playoffs? I don't think any AL team has a greater than 50% chance of making the playoffs, it's a league full of parity. But does that mean you should only try to compete when you have a flawless team? I'll be very disappointed if the Sox don't land one of the Big 3, but if we do I think we have as much a chance to make the playoffs or win the division as anyone in the ALC. To your other point, yes Frazier, Lawrie and Melky are leaving after 2017, but nothing has changed about the future outlook on those positions since the offseason began, unless you believe Micah Johnson was going to be our starting 2B or Thompson a starting OF in 2018. Maybe we draft a college OF or 3B with our upcoming pick. Maybe Trey, May, or Engel are major-league ready by then. Maybe we resign Lawrie. A lot can happen in two years, I'll worry about that when the time comes.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 26, 2015 -> 07:40 PM) This is a bizarre thread. Are the white sox particularly unusual in having only 1 player playing CF while most teams switch their CFs out? Because I simply sorted teams in the AL by WAR in CF, the stat listed in the thread title, and found the White Sox overall CF is in the bottom 1/3 of the American league over 2014-2015 and looking particularly mediocre with Eaton Team WAR Angels 16.6 Royals 15.1 Rays 14.6 Red Sox 9.8 Astros 8.7 Yankees 8.1 Orioles 7.9 Indians 7.9 Blue Jays 7.4 White Sox 6.6 Athletics 5.5 Rangers 5.4 Tigers 5.1 Twins 5 Mariners 0.4 The fact that the Sox don't switch out their CF is exactly why they look so "mediocre" when you compare them to the other teams. Fangraphs adds the WAR totals for any player who plays in CF, it doesn't do partial WAR for each position. So even though Colby Rasmus only played 43 of his 131 games in CF this year for the Astros, his 2015 season WAR gets added to the Astros CF WAR totals, even though he accumulated most of his WAR while playing in LF. Those totals are artificially inflated. Look at the Cubs WAR from the catcher position for another example. Fangraphs adds in Schwarber's season total WAR for the Cubs, even though he only played 21 of his 69 games at catcher in 2015. Some of the numbers also don't make sense if you click on the teams to see the breakdown. For example, in 2014-2015 the Yankees have Gardner at 4.9 WAR, then Slade Heathcott at 0.5 WAR, Mason Williams at 0.3 WAR and Eury Perez at -0.2 WAR. That totals 5.5 WAR, far lower than the 8.1 on that list. Same with the Indians. They have Abraham Almonte at 1.4 WAR, Nyjer Morgan at 0.3 WAR, Michael Bourn at 0.3 WAR and Tyler Holt at 0.0 WAR. Same thing happens with the Blue Jays as well. The Sox should definitely be ahead of those teams. If you account for the Astros' WAR inflation the Sox should be ahead of them too (new total for Houston is about 5.8). Boston, KC and Tampa Bay are also seeing a lot of WAR inflation here, but are still ahead of the Sox if you account for it, but not by as much as it seems from your list. According to my calculations (I just adjusted the WAR by percentage of games played in CF, crude yet should be approximate), the Sox are 6th in the AL in CF WAR the last two seasons, just 0.2 WAR behind Boston for 5th. That's certainly not "particularly mediocre", especially considering the kind of talent at CF in the AL right now. I'm too lazy to do the calculations for the NL right now, but there's a lot of WAR inflation for them too (for some reason the Dodgers get to count Ethier's 2.9 WAR for 2015 in their two year CF sample, even though Ethier played all of 1 game in CF this year), though it looks like only the Pirates, Diamondbacks and Brewers are solidly ahead, with the Mets basically a wash. So 10th or 11th in the MLB, sounds about right for Eaton.

QUOTE (OnlyGillis @ Dec 25, 2015 -> 10:38 PM) Late inning lefty specialists? He hit .219 and .231 in the 8th and 9th. I wouldn't be surprised if many of those he faced were lefties. Why would managers bring in a lefty specialist to face Abreu?

Bulls have arguably the best collection of wins in the NBA, what a strange season so far.

Can't breathe on Westbrook without getting a foul called. Our guys get hacked constantly and nothing. So many sloppy turnovers though.

Jimmy having a great game on both ends.

This game has been so sloppy.