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QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:29 PM) That's a major downgrade from Tyson Ross. He's a lot better than Beeler though.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:06 PM) I'm not really surprised. You have to figure everybody want the guys that are known and don't want to trade with the Cubs for the second tier prospects. And the Cubs arent going to trade those premier guys, atleast not this year. And nobody wants Castro. They still have like 5 Top 100 prospects though plus Baez. I know Baez was really really bad in his short stint last year but they do have the pieces to make a deal.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 11:32 AM) You guys are all young whipper snappers. I was 8 years old in 1959 when I first started following baseball and the White Sox were my team. My first baseball glove was a Nellie Fox model. I'm just young enough (and started being a big fan late enough) to miss almost the entire Frank Thomas era unfortunately, especially his best years.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) If somebody rivals the package that Detroit got for Price, then yes, trade him, but I don't think anybody is going to offer that much. +1

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:31 AM) Adage to remember today (from one GM): Buyers make more mistakes than sellers because buyers are more emotional. Sellers are more Sounds like a Rick statement. Well it's true. Buyers are desperate, sellers are not.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:16 AM) Rentals are going for a lot. I understand that, but I also am not that high on Upton, I'd rather get Cespedes if we're getting a rental, but ideally I wouldn't want a rental at all.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) I'll take my chances. I have no faith in Frankie to be a mainstay in our future rotation so I'll take my 2 months rental over what I see as a future reliever. Even if you have no faith in Montas he certainly has more value than a 2-month rental. Trade him to get a bat locked up beyond this year if you're going to move him.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:57 AM) I don't believe they would either but he might be on the short list of our top prospects along with Montas with whom to trade for a non rental. Actually our top 5 prospects could all be top 100 guys if they hadnt either faltered some ( Eric Johnson ) or been brought up(Micah Johnson) Montas, Anderson, Fulmer all in MLB Pipeline's top 100 plus EJ used to be until his meltdown but has come back very strong and Micah would be quite high if only he could field decently. Micah still qualifies as a prospect, he's just not a top 100 guy. EJ no longer qualifies as a prospect, if he did he'd likely be on there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:07 AM) I'd like to see some statistical proof of that. I feel this is more of a AAAA phenomenon. https://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...s/all-time#1990 Dominating the minors would probably put you in the top 20 prospects in all of baseball. I'm not saying EJ is a top 20 guy (he was #63 in 2014), especially because his dominating stretch is still a pretty small sample size, but I was more making an overall point about dominant minor league numbers. I went through that list from 1990-2000 and 45% of the prospects ranked in the top 20 played at least 1000 games (goes over 50% if the cutoff is down to 900 games instead of 1000) and that's not even counting all the pitchers who don't get that high but definitely did enough to stick around. 900-1000 games is 6+ seasons, I think that qualifies as sticking at the major league level.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) Sorry forgot to tune in to his triple a starts to watch him tear up minor leaguers. So his utter dominance down there means nothing? Really? Guys who completely tear up AAA stick at the MLB level more often than not. Even if you don't believe in EJ, his turnaround has increased his value quite a bit. If we wanted to trade him, we could do a lot better than an Upton rental.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 08:47 AM) EJ sucks Shows how much you've followed him over the last year. He was a top 100 prospect a year ago after a very good 2013, but got knocked around a bit last year due to a loss in velocity for unknown reasons. His velocity has returned this year and he's dominated with good strikeout numbers and he's given up 1 earned run in his last 47 innings. Clearly that's worth trading for two months of an overrated Upton.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 08:40 AM) I disagree I think EJ is disposable. He's a 4-5 pitchers in a rotation that will include Sale, q, Rodon, possibly Fulmer. 4-5 starters can be found anywhere. Trading EJ is like trading Clayton Richard EJ has the potential to be a pretty good #3 pitcher. We traded Richard for several seasons of Jake Peavy. The scenarios are not even close to being the same, and EJ is better than Richard. Upton is a 2-month rental and he's hit like complete s*** the last two months (under .600 OPS). EJ would be a massive overpay.

What's a normal age to start following a team as a die-hard? I'm 25 but my first season following the White Sox all the way through was the 2004 team. I guess I was a late bloomer.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 08:31 AM) Montas and Adams would be tough but EJ sure. Plus I think if we get Upton we are getting something else back. Whether it's Kennedy or Middlebrooks. But we will have to part with a prospect or two that we like its just part of the game. Why would you trade EJ for a rental? We need him for our rotation for the next several years. That makes zero sense. That would be a really terrible move, even if we were 10 games over .500.

So the Astros might acquire a 3rd SP? Damn they're really going for it.

If we're going to trade someone like Montas or Adams, I'd much prefer a guy who will be here longer than 2015.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 05:44 AM) Honestly, as long as they don't trade Anderson, Trey, or Fulmer I'm OK with whatever else they wanna trade. Sox have had a good deal of success with pitchers so I would be OK with trading Montas, Adams, Danish, and EJ. Anderson and Trey are the only hitters who I think could make an impact in this system. Micah as well but with the way the Sanchize has been playing I think it makes Micah expendable. You'd be OK with trading Montas, Adams or EJ for two months of Upton? That'd be awful, especially EJ.

QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:58 AM) I really hope that the guys the Reds got from SF, and the Tigers from TOR aren't the deals we walked away from because we got hot. Price >>> Samardzija, so I highly doubt Toronto was offering a similar package. No way we'd have got Norris in the deal.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 08:58 PM) Goodbye, Sale's ERA. I'll miss you. At least his fWAR will still go up

Well s***, now I'm not sure I want to be buyers. We really do need another week or two.

A loss here would be the most crushing feeling since we blew that 3-game lead in 2012.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this, but the only thing worse than seeing a bunch of Kansas City cheap hits is hearing Hawk use the term "KC special" on every cheap hit. +1

f***, this game is getting out of hand.

It's not like Wright is pitching particularly well, he's thrown a lot of meatballs that we've "just missed on" a bunch of times.

When's the last time LaRoche hit a HR?