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Rodon looking good, no walks so far, keep it up.

Looks like the Sox aren't the only Chicago team to struggle with the fundamentals when playing the Royals. Fowler dropped an easy fly ball that led to 2 runs, 7-4 Royals now.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ May 28, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) If you were the GM of a contending team, just how much would you give up for an aging/declining SS or a starting pitcher that got off to a bad start and will only be a two or three month rental? IMO, I would not be willing to give up much for either one of them if I were a GM looking to upgrade. Let's also keep in mind that fans almost always over value their teams players. Samardzija may have gotten off to a bad start but he's pitched well lately and now his season numbers are starting to look decent. His ERA is under 4.00 and his peripherals look good, he's 25th in WAR for starting pitchers this year. I still think the compensation pick will end up being better than any trade deadline haul we could get for him though.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 28, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) Guerra 6.0 IP, 5H, 1ER, 2BB, 8K Can he replace Danks?

So much has been said about the threatening Cubs lineup that I was surprised to see that they're 18th in runs scored and in the bottom half of the NL.

QUOTE (shipps @ May 28, 2015 -> 05:03 PM) When was the last good Whitesox pitching debut? Seriously. I was at Carroll's debut, he did pretty well.

So many strikeouts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Knowing this team I'd be surprised if he doesn't. That 9-pitch AB may have ruined it though.

Any chance Sale comes out for the 8th?

Lot of late comebacks for the Cubs this year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 26, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) No one has picked him up yet? That's really an impressive indictment of us continuing to play him. He'd be one of our better hitters this year, sadly.

Since about 2007 or so, it seems like with a few notable exceptions like J.J. Putz, Jesse Crain, or Andruw Jones, every guy we bring in performs worse than their career averages when they put on a White Sox uniform, and often significantly worse. I've looked back at every move over the past 8 years where we've brought in a guy with some kind of track record with other teams, and it's not like we've brought in a bunch of over-the-hill players or guys who've been trending downward, a lot of the time these guys are in the prime of their careers and coming off some good seasons, yet they suck with us, and an amazing number of them end up having their career-worst year with the White Sox. What gives? Even the bench players and back of the bullpen relievers end up performing worse with us than they do elsewhere. 2007: Toby Hall was never very good, but with us he was dreadful. Darin Erstad put in an uninspiring campaign but was trending down at that point. David Aardsma was hot garbage with us as well, putting in his worst season of his career. He would end up having a couple solid seasons in Seattle a few years later. 2008: Orlando Cabrera was mediocre, but still worse than the previous two seasons. D.J. Carrasco actually breaks the trend and is better with us than he was elsewhere. Linebrink was overall mediocre in his time here, Dotel was at career averages, Swisher was obviously horrible (though his numbers in 2008 would look great compared to the guys today), Griffey was actually OK but obviously at the end of the rope, and Wise was better with us than elsewhere but that only means slightly less awful. 2009: Kotsay was bad but on the downswing, Castro was slightly better, Betemit was a solid hitter elsewhere but dreadful with us, Tony Pena was better in Arizona, although Rios was OK in 2010 and great in 2012, he still turned in two completely dreadful campaigns in '09 and '11. Peavy was slightly worse with us. 2010: Vizquel was washed-up, Pierre was really bad (coming off a solid year in LA too), Jones turned in a surprisingly good season, De Aza was OK, while Edwin Jackson and J.J. Putz were pretty good. 2011: Adam ".159" Dunn, Teahen was significantly worse in a White Sox uniform, Bruney and Frasor also were complete busts. 2012: Youkilis was just OK but significantly down from before, Hudson was awful, only 41 ABs but Fukudome was horrendous, Liriano sucked, Crain was awesome and Myers was solid. 2013: Keppinger was coming off a very solid year and turned in easily his career-worst season, Lindstrom ended up just OK 2014: Belisario and Downs were huge busts but were solid elsewhere 2015: Melky is arguably the worst hitter in the league, LaRoche has significantly regressed, Samardzija has been mediocre, and even Bonafacio has stunk up the joint relative to his mediocre career numbers. Duke has been OK and Robertson has obviously been fantastic. By my count, over the past 7 seasons Hall, Aardsma, Swisher, Betemit, Pierre, Frasor, Fukudome, Liriano, Dunn, Keppinger, Belisario, Downs were all more or less complete disasters in a White Sox uniform compared to what we should have expected from them (Yes I'm aware some of them had small samples but we can't even catch a break with the small sample guys). If things continue at their current pace, Melky, LaRoche and Bonafacio could join the list. Rios doesn't deserve to be called a disaster but he still had his two worst seasons with us. Pretty much the only moves we "hit" on was a solid bench campaign from Andruw Jones, a good year from Edwin Jackson, great years from Putz and Crain and a solid year from Carrasco. Every other guy more or less performed below career averages, often significantly less so. I know guys like Quentin, Floyd, Eaton, Abreu have been good for us but I'm focusing on the guys we bring in who already have a track record. Why do we miss on these types of moves so often?

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 24, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) I disagree, because at the deadline teams will be clamoring to get Shark if we leak it to the press he's available. There will be a race to get Shark and Robertson, even Lexi. These are key pieces (on paper) to a contender. Melky is a valuable bat; ditto LaRoche (on paper and to fan bases; we know better). I think it is a perfec scenario. That's why I said TRADE everybody except Abreu/Sale. Deadline deals don't get much in return anymore. The Shark deal last year was far different because he had a year and a half remaining on his contract, we're not going to get much in return, especially if Cueto and Hamels are also on the market.

How many of you actually foresaw all the moves we made performing well below career norms? I'm not buying this sudden revisionist history from a lot of you. Trading them doesn't make sense either, because we'd be selling low on basically everyone. Even Robertson probably wouldn't get much in return, he's a reliever and we're paying him a ton of money. It sucks because if everyone just had the season they had last year things would be looking very good. Of course we should have expected sone regression but not to this degree and not from everyone. Pretty much have to stick with it and see if some of the guys can turn it around enough to be valuable by the deadline.

Can we please start hitting home runs? The weather has warmed up and we're in a home run hitter's paradise for Christ's sake. This is embarrassing.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 24, 2015 -> 07:50 AM) Cubs are about to make the white sox a non entity. Say what you want but that organization has built itself into something. Arrieta and Rizzo are the moves that are defining them. We're pretty much already a non-entity, and we were even when the Cubs were losing 90 games a year. What the Cubs do won't really change anything with regards to that.

Wouldn't it be cool if we were capable of scoring 9 runs? That seems like a pipe dream for our lineup right now.

We're 16th in team batting average but 29th in runs. Meanwhile Houston is 6th in runs but dead last in batting average. I miss having power in the lineup.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 23, 2015 -> 05:13 PM) So tired of Hawk and Stone excuse how every pitcher we face having best start of the year. Surprised they don't have sore wrists with how often they "tip their cap" to opposing starting pitchers.

Abreu and Sale not being dominant this year is killing us.

Ball is flying today, hit a homerun already.

This lineup is brutal.

They just hit a week's worth of dingers for us.

We never score first.

How about some dingers for once?