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Update on xStats numbers: .296/.346/.493 with a .337 BABIP I still don't think we'd get much for him in the offseason but if the right deal was there I'd absolutely pull the trigger. Extending him seems premature too though so I'd wait and see, even if he has another good year next year he still wouldn't be too expensive. If he puts up somewhere around the line above next year then you can think about extending him, though the number of years would be much more important IMO than the AAV.

Saladino tied the AL LOB record in a 9 inning game with 11.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 03:52 PM) 25 hits? What's the Sox record? http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/histor...ame_records.jsp 29 on April 23rd 1955 against the Royals. That game also has the franchise record for runs (29) and home runs (7).

Engel with the out cycle today: pop out, line out, ground out, fly out, strikeout

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) I HATE WINS!! But this game was fun! Have a day Moncada and Avi! I am also of the thought that you try and trade Avi in the offseason and see if you could get lucky to receive a 55+ FV prospect. Top 30ish guy (though thats arbitrary) with maybe another 50 FV guy. It would be hard to let that pass if that offer was there. Given the way the market crashed for corner bat-only types this season that seems way too optimistic. I'm thinking the best we could do is a back-end top 100 prospect and not much else.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 03:05 PM) Since this thread was started, Moncada has gone from a .179 batting average and a .649 OPS to a .230 batting average and .762 OPS. Make that a .765 OPS after that last walk. I'm starting to believe that Ron has actual powers.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 03:16 PM) There is always somebody. 0-6 for Saladino. Naturally the only one without a hit is the DH.

Moncada and Benintendi now have identical wRC+ (107)

Moncada 4-4

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) The Tigers have had a nice run but alot of us Sox fans have seen the writing on the wall for a while. With those contracts, s***ty farm and under performing, it was inevitable. Where do you think Miggy ends up? I have to assume they try to move him this winter. He's been a negative value player this year, I wonder if they try to move him in the winter or hold and hope he rebounds in the first half of 2018. That contract could become Pujols-esque though.

Warwick Saupold is a great name.

I like the first pitch swinging there.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 12:57 PM) This team isn't going to be competitive The biggest lineup problem is the K:BB ratio we have the fifth most strikeouts as a team and the 3rd least walks Davidson is the biggest problem child, but Engel has this issue as well. Even Abreu, who's been a monster, has had very few walks. The biggest rotation problem is James Shields Second biggest is lack of experience and consistency The biggest bullpen problem is we don't have a proven one If everything went right we would win like 78-84 games, resutling in a worst case scenario for 2019 draft pick I hope we suck next year but trim the fat Considering we'll have a lot of the next competitive team's core pieces on next year's team assuming Eloy and Kopech eventually come up, I wouldn't see a 78-84 record as a worst case scenario, unless it was all due to sequencing/run differential luck or something similar. That's way closer to a best case scenario than a worst case scenario. That means our young guys did well and we can compete in 2019 with a good offseason.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) Yoan with a .306/.375/.527/.902 slash and a tolerable 25% k rate so far in September. Can't complain about that. And he hasn't been looking hopeless against LHP

QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 07:33 AM) I bet Detroit catches White Sox this weekend. This year feels like bizarro 2012 and they might catch us again.

That might have been the most lackluster homerun call I've ever heard from Hawk.

He hit it off a lefty too! His wRC+ is now at 100.

Davidson at .216/.261/.455 84 wRC+ and -0.8 WAR shouldn't really be considered a plus, he's fallen pretty hard. Also even with the above we get a wildcard at best and then we need to rebuild anyway, but this time we have fewer assets and the assets that remain have less value. I'd still rebuild.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) I've always been pro tank but not at the expense of our young guys. These are the EXACT type of games I want to see the rest of this season into next. If we're getting good starts out of Gio and Yoan and TA are going to spark rallies then f*** losing. If Shields is going to go out there and get hit around then f*** winning. Completely agree, plus if this series helps put the nail in the coffin for the Royals' playoff hopes that's just an extra bonus.

QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 04:24 PM) Yoan on base 4 times today. OPS back over 700 He has a 14 game on base streak too.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 01:10 PM) Well the White Sox would just DH him. He's already gone to exclusively DH in the NPB this year, so it's fairly safe to assume he'd be okay with that. I was just disagreeing with Cameron's assessment that an NL team makes the most sense. I'd be absolutely shocked if he actually plays the field between starts. To be fair Cameron wasn't suggesting an NL team would let him play the field, just that an NL team makes the most sense because he can hit when he starts and pinch hit for pitchers on his off days. But that would give him, what, less than 200 PA at the plate? An AL team could offer more opportunities to hit than that easily. He argues that this scenario would cause a problem with roster construction because Otani would probably only DH 2 to 3 times per week and you'd need a roster spot to cover DH the rest of the time, but that seems like a minor issue. I just looked and there were only 6 or 7 DHs this year that were full-time DHs, and it shouldn't be that hard to find opportunities to get Otani into the lineup and get him ~300 PA or so.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 12:35 PM) Actually hope Hahn continues to stay away Not big on this kid Even if you aren't big on him the risk is minimal for every team. It's a no-brainer for everybody.

Nah at this point I'm just convinced he slept with your girlfriend or something.

In Dave Cameron's chat today he thinks NL teams have the advantage because AL teams would be too wary of promising him too many at bats at DH in case he flops as a hitter and they're stuck with a black hole in the lineup, whereas NL teams can let him pinch hit on his off days where the bar he needs to clear for hitting will be much lower. But even if he does suck as a hitter will the AL team be obligated to keep trotting him out there at DH? And if that's the case couldn't an AL rebuilding club just take that risk and guarantee him plenty of AB? If he flops at the plate initially it's no big deal to them.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 09:14 AM) Believe they are still capped at $300k. I guess he can still try to convince him why he should come to Chicago. Plus I think there's little to no chance he signs with an NL team without a DH slot ready for him.