OmarComing25

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) This team is fool's gold. Sell sell sell. With that said its always great beating the worldly Cubs I wouldn't say fool's gold, pretty much everyone expected this to be a .500 team and that's what they are. I'm fine with not trading Quintana/Sale right now if the offers aren't there, but they need to take advantage of the price tag on relievers.

Unless the Sox win out to the deadline, I doubt this changes anything. Always nice to beat these guys though.

That was an ugly AB by Bryant.

It's his swing. http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/07/06/jason-hey...n-kershaw-stats http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs...ing-is-glaring/

Just donated, I was born 10 weeks early and had a host of problems myself afterwards. Hope everything turns out OK like it did for me.

Not a lot of strikeouts, but after all the control issues he's had, just 8 walks in 78.2 innings at Charlotte is nice to see.

Jones to close?

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) Nightingale says the Marlins are at the game scouting Gonzo In this SP market he may have some decent value to someone.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:14 PM) Most people disagree. He doesn't have the stuff and talent of Sale so his perceived value is less. He's doing very well this year but overall for the long term Sale has more sustainable value. Sale has more value but the gap is a lot smaller than a lot of people think.

QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 08:52 PM) Basically the only player worthy of this guy is Kershaw and that's with LA eating the contract Funny thing is Kershaw has a clause in his contract where he immediately becomes a free agent if traded, ruining a lot of his value for other teams.

I feel like people are undervaluing De Leon here (have you seen his strikeout numbers?), but yeah without Urias it's probably not enough, though he's probably untouchable at this point.

Just because you have an excess of talent doesn't mean you should trade that talent for far less than it's worth. Chapman is great, but does he move the needle enough, especially with how much of a crapshoot the playoffs already are? It's not like he would have made a difference last year. At best they improved their odds by a percent or two. That kind of package could have netted you someone that can pitch for you beyond just this season. If they were going to overpay for a Yankee reliever, Miller would have made more sense (and yes, I know this same package could not have gotten Miller).

Quintana might fly under the radar among baseball fans and baseball media but I highly doubt that the vast majority of GMs don't know how good he is, otherwise they would be incompetent at their jobs. And that's all that matters. I don't think perception will hurt him.

You're right, absolutely no one on this board had talked about Abreu's struggles this year. It's not like we haven't had multiple threads about it or anything.

This is the same guy who claimed the Cubs could trade for Trout with a handful of prospects, being called out for dumb arguments is not the same as bullying.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) There's a lot of data to suggest players in the HRD have worse second halves than their first halves. The problem is, I have never seen comparison to how that compares to the average MLB player OR the average All-Star. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-home-run-derby-myth/ https://brokenclipboard.wordpress.com/2016/...n-derby-myth-2/ http://www.fangraphs.com/community/mythbus...-derby-edition/ Not really

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) Reed always made these lists too when he was in our system. I certainly wouldn't guarantee it but there's a chance Burdi will be there. Not really sure why this list is depressing as everyone knew we'd have one guy on it once TA graduated to the Majors. Yeah if anything I'm surprised Fulmer is that high. There are no surprises, so it's not really depressing.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 10:50 PM) Be precise. I said that his road OPS is about what Rios' OPS was, and simply suggested he has equal value (especially as his salary is about twice as high). Sure most players hit better at home....but most players do NOT have the split differentials Cargo has. Comparisons with Holiday are ridiculous. Holliday had road OPS >.800 in each of his last 3 years in Colorado, including .892 his last year. Cargo's are in the .750 range. And he's older than Holliday was. And his D is poor. And he's paid nearly $20 million a year. Of course I'm getting attacked. I know I'll get attacked when suggesting that trading for players at or past their prime, especially those with bad splits, won't help the team win. It doesn't matter how much evidence there is: from Dunn to Laroche to, yes, Frazier (who hasn't come close to Cincy numbers). I was beaten down for suggesting the Shark trade was lousy; and the Frazier trade. It doesn't matter that the winning organizations don't make trades like this. People want those "stars" falling as they may be. 7 non-playoff seasons in a row be damned. You're getting attacked because you're ignoring information that goes against your argument.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 12:36 AM) I hope the Cubs score 10 runs in the first inning tomorrow and force the Braves to burn through their bullpen. So much for that...

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 07:02 PM) 2015 Before playing home run derby/ after playing home run derby Frazier=0.922/0.644 Rizzo=0.955/0.833 Pederson=0.851/0.617 Pujols=0.855/0.707 Donaldson=0.844/1.011 bryant=0.848/0.867 machado=0.886/0.832 Fielder=0.924/0.742 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/...?client=safari#

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) Here we go. Knew this was coming .750 OPS away from Coors field in 2016; .758 in 2015. That's Rios. Hahn set that value: Leury Garcia. (really should be less considering that Rios made 60% of Cargo's money) Paying anything more than the value of a .758 OPS earning $20 million a year is wishcasting. That's all it is. If we want a Rockie, get Blackmon http://www.purplerow.com/2014/5/15/5712224...mbers-are-lying Pretty much every hitter hits better at home than on the road anyway, so you can't just take road splits at face value. But it's particularly stark with Rockies' hitters, making their road splits even more unreliable. Also, now you're against Rios again? Make up your mind man.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 7, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) I always get torn about his home/road splits. I've read breakdowns about how it can take a couple games to adjust from Coors Field to a regular elevation, so there is an even larger difference in their home/away splits. Matt Holliday was fine outside of Coors. Corey Dickerson...not so much Yeah Coors home/road splits should be taken with some grains of salt, pretty much every hitter on the Rockies has very unusual splits (even accounting for their home park hitter paradise) because of the adjustment. Plus, as pointed out, his road splits are still good (.780 OPS last three years)

I might end up going to this. For those of us going from Soxtalk, maybe we should wear nametags with our usernames on them?

I hope the Cubs score 10 runs in the first inning tomorrow and force the Braves to burn through their bullpen.

I also don't get the comparisons to last year that a lot of posters are making. Last year's team spent all of one day over .500, and their one good stretch came against two bad teams, and once they started playing good competition again they wilted. We've already seen this team play well for multiple stretches, and with a couple exceptions they've played well against good competition.