ChiSox1917

The bigger issue is the defensive contribution to WAR. Its why you sometimes get huge differences in WAR between bWAR and fWAR. oWAR or OFF is typically a good measure of the players offensive value though and is more consistent between the two sites as someone else noted above madrigals values are really weighed down by his baserunning blunders right now

What the fuck was that?

Dont agree that spin rate is bullshit, however youre spot on that it isnt his biggest problem. His problem is guys sit on the fastball because he cant consistently throw any of his secondary stuff for strikes. MLB hitters can hit a 99mph fastball. You have to be able to keep them off balance by making them need to protect against offspeed and breaking stuff. He seems lately like hes been getting a bit more comfortable with the changeup as a pitch he can throw in the zone, but i dont think he has a clue where any of his breaking pitches are going to end up. He just lets loose and prays theyll be close to the strike zone.

It has been. Hes slumping. You knew it had to happen at some point. We’ll see if hes able to adjust

Ughhh....ok yeah i hate navarro more than edwin. Just cause he was here sucking longer than edwin will be

Swisher is the closest for me

Yoans batspeed is noticeably slower than it was last year

Im not sure theres a white sox player/signing i have hated more than edwin

probably stanton

Getting berrios pitch count up

Nellie fox

Nicky biceps!

Atta boy nicky!

Thats not really a dig at cease, just the truth

This will always be the case with cease. nice play by berrios there

The book on cease is to take when you see curve spin. He rarely throws it for a strike, so even though it has nasty break, its essentially a useless pitch the majority of the time

God if he can just ever learn how to command his curve

The fact that renterias best quality as a manager seems to be that “hes a good guy” speaks volumes about just how terrible a manager he is

Id prefer mcneil personally but nimmo would be a big upgrade. when healthy in 2018 he put up a 4+ WAR, and if this was a full season hed be on pace for about a 3.3 WAR. Hes also got several years of control left. hes a solid player that is just entering his peak years. But really any one of the four of them would be nice to get.

Bauer Then trade for one of the mets outfielders. Id prefer Conforto but he only has one year left so cant give up much unless hes willing to sign an extension and forego free agency (would adolfo+sheets/burger get it done?). Mcneil or smith make more sense, at least if you believe smith can handle a full season in right field.

Id have jose number 1. I dont have too much of a problem with the list as those would be my top 5 guys also, just not in the same order. Timmy and jose are going to cannibalize each other in the voting though so i dont expect either to win it. If i was betting money, id put it on cruz to win

17 games in 17 days is going to be absolutely brutal. I really hope the bullpen can survive

Thats the point though. Hes KILLING us hitting 4th/5th. With anderson, moncada, abreu, grandal, eloy, and robert, he should be hitting no higher than 7th at this point (8th against righties).

He has never started this bad in a season before. His peripherals (k rate, exit velo) are significantly worse with this “slow start” than his slow starts in prior years. In prior years slow starts, his k% peaked at about 35% early in the year, this year its up over 40%. His chase rate is also significantly higher this year than his other “slow starts” while his zone contact rate is down compared to them. His peripherals with this slow start are much much worse than in prior years. But yeah, lets just keep hope he heats up. Maybe he’ll heat up to being a league average DH this year. Oh boy.

We’re 70% of the way through the season and hes been a replacement level player. People on here complaining about mazara, yet atleast he has a positive WAR. Encarnacion is the one guy we should not be “relaxed” about given where hes hitting in the lineup