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QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) but damn it, i know i am going to sound really sappy here, and maybe some poster will have ammo to make fun, but i can see this team on the cusp of doing great things. esp if the sox will invest in an of'er and sp. then i can see the domino effect happen towards the positive side. damn it, the owners has to give in. the fans want it to happen, to make this team better. sorry, mini rant there. I was a Sox Fan ever since I can remember,it`s in my family`s blood.I can`t help it,it`s in my DNA.Now,I don`t hate the Cubs I just don`t follow them. We just seemed to be a few players short every year.This coming year seems no different.I hope I am wrong and if I am I will gladly admit it,but I`m not getting my season tics again this year because of it.Since Reinsdorf took over we may have made the playoffs 5 or 6 times.The WS was great but we should have higher goals than winning 1 world series since 1980`s.That`s my opinion FWIW.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 09:22 AM) If he ends up taking a guaranteed 5 year deal in the $110-120 million range, then I don't think the Sox would look bad for refusing to go that high. Cespedes is not good enough to warrant that. If the Sox get to the playoffs or are competing for the WS or even win the WS,then being tied down a year or 2 would be worth it.So they don`t want to offer 4 or 5 years so they won`t be tied down while NOT making the playoffs or even competing for them.Because since Reinsdorf took over they haven`t been perenial playoff contenders.If they were constantly in the mix for making the playoffs I could understand not wanting to be Fiscally Hamstrung by an obsolete contract but they aren`t competing every year.So to not go for it when you have the chance is one reason why alotta of us Sox Fans are disgusted with Reinsdorf.That`s this longtime Soxfan`s opinion

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 07:09 AM) Gardner isn't great, but I wouldn't mind trading for him in the right deal. Obviously he isn't as good as Cespedes, but he could slot into the 2 hole nicely behind Eaton. Sox are not contenders they are pretenders.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 04:40 PM) I honestly think they were until the Nationals came in and added years onto the deal that the others were offering. If the FO thinks Cespedes is the best choice and they don`t sign him because they`re worrying about 2-3 yrs down the road then they deserve an empty ballpark.If they think Cespedes is the best bet to get to the playoffs and maybe the WS then they do whatever they have to to sign him.If they don`t think he can get them in the playoffs they shouldn`t even be talking to him.1 WS in 35 yrs they should be doing all they can to win.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 03:27 PM) You do know JR does not sign players right? My guess is Hahn has the money but does not think 5/$100M for Cespedas is worth the investment. If he signs for 4/$80 then there can be a debate. I want the White Sox to have a philosophy and stop with the every now and then All In mantra. You are either in or you are out as your organizational premise. Figure it out and follow through with it. Stop pissing on my shoes and telling me it is raining. When it`s a big $$$ signing like Cespedes is gonna get JR signs off on it.Pretty much everything big ticket goes thru Shrek,unless they changed the way they do business but that is how it always was.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) +1 No idea why the hell this board became so negative because the Nationals submitted an offer. It's one lower than we expected except were doomed now. It honestly made me more confident as I don't think it'll be hard to beat. Sadly Sox Fans remember all to well Tory Hunter all but signed and Angels came in and JR choking on his Turkey at Thanksgiving.We are being bombarded with 3 years only and we believe it because we know what it is that makes JR Shrek tick.$$$$ We are used to losing during Shrek`s reign as owner.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) not signing Cespedes might be the best move we make at least on a long term deal. I know over the 337 some pages of posts we have mentioned his friendship with Abreu a few times, and maybe Jose could have a positive influence on Cespedes, but in the end it's all about the money. I kind of think lower prices free agents might be better for out team. Desmond and Jackson or Fowler might be better additions. I would be happy with Cespedes in a Sox uniform on a fair contract, but I won't cry if he isn't with us. Kind of interesting though that the team management is pretty tight lipped about things where it appears there is all kinds of info leaked out to analysts by other teams on their efforts. In our case it's all about how close of a relationship Abreu and Cespedes might have If we get to the playoffs and actually have a chance to win a WS for a couple or 3 years and they had to eat 2 years where it`s not that great,I`m all for that.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) We'll call it a day at the end of the season too.......in fourth place. Still need an additional power bat somewhere I gave up my season tickets a few years ago because I was sick of watching the Sox lose and make a pile of $$$.I was hoping to reup but I don`t see any reason too.I`ll keep my money and won`t even think about baseball.I hope they surprise me and add another quality bat to the lineup but if not they won`t get my $$$$.I would love nothing more than have this post be wrong and find out they got Y C.I would actually say something nice about White Sox F O... People are making excuses for the FO already.Saying they need to save their money for Abreau and Sales but its gonna be the same thing because you need a team to win and Abreau and Sale would need help and Mr Fiscally Responsible is never gonna spend enough to win. The worse part is he should be developing his Farm system ala Royals.That`s how you can stay out of the FA spending Game by developing young players but he`s not doing that either. Shrek needs commit to the young guys or commit to FA,pick a lane...I wish he would sell the team The Old Shrek looking owner needs to move on...