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the two catchers we got rid of were terrible defensive catchers that couldn't frame or throw out a runner and had no pop in their bats. Alonso is a step up from Davidson in terms of OBP and defense at ist base. who give a shit how much money he is he is making. Also a left handed power bat in a lineup full of righties. And a great Clubhouse guy from all accounts. Jay is much better in terms on OBP than Engle and that is exactly what this lineup needs. None of those moves are game changers but the lineup and relief pitching is a big step up from last year imo. And yes do whatever you have to do to get Machado!!!!!!

we will probably have Sale, Moncada, kopech next year so will that make you happy? it would me

I did say another piece didn't I ? Again we have a ton of holes and a pitcher or pitchers are some of them but with Machado and being in that horseshit division its not crazy to think 15-20 games isn't a stretch. Machado is the key ( Harper is a pipe dream imo)

I'm not saying the Sox will be a playoff team in 2019 but its not out of the realm to think they can't be competitive if we sign Machado and another decent piece. All you have to do is look at the Phillies and the Braves in 2017- 2018 (and the Brewers from 2016-2017) and see how both of there win totals went up in a lot tougher division than ours. Our division is by far the worst in baseball and not going to get any better soon especially is Cleveland Starts a rebuild in 2019. A Machado and Eloy make that lineup a whole hell of a lot better and combined with the defense Machado supplies with better catching defense its not out the realm to see surprising improvement in our record.

if the Sox don't get a good free agent I hope they sign with a national league team not named the Cubs. Every Sox fan should think like that IMO.

Don't forget the top 3-4 prospects this year in the MLB draft 2 of them are catchers so the odds are if we want one of them we have a good chance to grab one.

Grandal would be a great move. Just like getting rid of Garcia, Davidson, Narvaez, Smith were great moves with improving the defense in mind. Having bad defense and bad defensive catchers are " death" to a young pitching staff. Anything we can do to shore up the defense I'm 100% behind. A Grandal- Castillo combo can only help out the young staff we are looking to have this year, Starters and relievers.

lets not forget the HUGE ballparks he had to hit in during his time with White Sox. Old Comiskey and Detroit were the biggest ballparks and Cleveland wasn't far behind. I think you can add a lot more homers to his total and without the strike years I agree 3000 hits would have been in the bag.

I understand but there is no starter out market that is even close to those to in ability and marketability. Not even close. Also next year you might be able to attract a decent pitcher(Sale) or 2 for less than normal pay with those guys on your team.

I don't post much and this is going to sound stupid and off base but I believe we have a decent shot at signing both with opt outs and front loaded contracts. Our payroll next year will still be ridiculously low in 2020 and beyond and we can make up a lot of that money in the TV deal. I know I know its sound ridiculous but I truly believe they are looking at that option. I think jerry and Hahn realize this opportunity to sign 2 young players like this will never happen again. Its a perfect storm with no money on books for 2020 and TV deal coming up and some of the big boys like Red sox, Cubs, Dodgers and maybe Yankees not being as aggressive as usual. Oh well have a good laugh. I can dream but Timing wise it makes perfect sense.

What is the latest on a new TV deal? Doesn't it go in effect after the 19 season and has anyone here heard anything new in regards to how much it might be worth? And I think signing of a Harper and or Machado would generate more money and offset the ridiculous salaries they are going to make. Thanx

Machado might get lazy signing a 300 million dollar deal. Don’t think Harper would. Dont know for sure just my opinion. Could be wrong.

He is to snarky for me. Way to snarky and too much of a wise ass. Give me Hawk and day. I miss him already. I like DJ also. He tells it like it is.

Dumb question on tiebreakers for worse record. If we tie tigers, padres and or marlins who gets 3rd pick? Thanx and it looks like 2 losses for us tonight which is sweet.

I love the Hawk and he will be badly missed. Sorely missed imo. If I have to listen to the snarky smart ass bennenti anymore I’ll puke. Him and stone together are awful …- hawk will ways be the best and no ones comes close,

That’s ridiculous. The last thing I care about with both of those guys are the homers. There both big guys and Rutherford is still a baby in terms of his age and strength. Last year at this time everybody was calling Rutherford a bust now he hitting 306. As long as the guy`s are making contact and hitting for a decent average and obp that’s all that counts IMO. To call sheets a reach is nonsense. Thome didn’t have any power early in his minor league career and look what happened. The play of both of those guys is the least of my concerns and actually pretty damm pleased with both.

You do what we did with the Yankees trade last year. You throw in Soria + + and get one above average prospect then a middle of the roader you would get with Soria alone. We have a minor league full of those guys( along with some exceptional) so I would rather get a potential high ceiling guy. A Shields+ Soria, etc package is the way to go IMO.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 10:00 AM) At some point the amount of teams tanking is going to self-correct and the prices of free agents will go up. We are already starting to see some last-place teams like the Phillies & Padres make expensive additions. Two years from now I could definitely see Abreu geting something like a 5/$100M deal. Given that would cover his age 33 to 37 seasons, matching that would certainly make me feel uncomfortable. No way is Abrue going to command that at 33 years old. Not even close. Remember Jose at that age can only play for American League team because he is going probably going to be a part time and defiantly full time DH in a few years. And if the Sox want him not a doubt in my mind he will give us a home town discount.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 11, 2018 -> 10:28 PM) https://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.aspx?pla...=P&pitch=FA There’s your answer. Plus, using a lot more pitches, walks up, missed bats down...ip/appearance way down. Also, Cubs can’t afford to get into their bullpen in the fifth or sixth like they used to when they had a better pen. I love if the Brewers signed him to that deal it would be a great deal but the Cubs do it it sucks. I hate the Cubs as much as anyone but you have to give them a A for the offseason. Signed some very good relievers( no real closer) but damm good pitchers and a very good starter. And with Q for a full season they have a excellent staff and team that matches up with anyone in the national league. Washington and dodgers are good but neither has had much of a offseason. Eaton coming back helps Wash alot. And i wouldn't worry about the cubs and spending money. Rumor is they are going to sign a monster TV contract in the billions in a couple years so I'm sure money isn't the issue right now and in the future. I hope Lester arm fails him this year dervish has his usual banged up year but if there both on with Q and Hendricks that could be lethal. I hate em but you give Theo credit for the offseason IMO

The White Sox have sighed 31 year Dean Anna.for second and shortstop depth. Local kid who played a few teams in the last 5 years and hit homer for NY against Boston, could be a nice piece if Sanchez gets traded,

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 22, 2018 -> 02:38 PM) If you're into counting top 100 prospects, we could very well have 8-10 by midseason as guys graduate. Jimenez, Kopech, Robert, Hansen, Rutherford, Cease, Collins, Dunning, Burger and Sheets are all top 150. I don't expect any of them to lose their prospect status until at least September in the case of Jimenez and Kopech, the rest won't see the bigs this year. They could all be on most mid season lists. Notable players rank include Austin Meadows-70, Carson Kelly -71, Cubs had 2 in SS Aramis Aderman at 78 and Adbert Alrozay RHP at 84.

QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 10:40 AM) I have been non-stop thinking of trade proposals for Yelich. Thoughts on any of these: 1. Hansen, Dunning, Collins, Low Level Prospect. 2. Hansen, Cease, Rutherford, Collins. 3. Dunning, Cease, Rutherford, Adams, Low Level Prospect. 4. Giolito, Fulmer, Collins, Low Level Prospect. 5. Lopez, Cease, Fulmer, Rutherford. Obviously I could go all day with this. 1. Which of these would White Sox accept? 2. Which of these would the Marlins accept? I would not give up a lot but a Rutherford, Cease Adams, fulmer for sure. again you have to give up less and take on some other high salary players( Chen, etc) to make up for better prospects.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 12:09 AM) whoever edited my post to add that should take a vacation. that's mean. And what's the difference how bad he was the previous year? Albers was hors*** with us in 2016 and a god with the Nats in 17. Same with Rondon with the Cubs and alot of pitchers from one year to the next. The bottom line is we gave away a player who would ever had played never play with us for 2 potential trade pieces. Maybe we get lucky like Kanle or a maybe we get a bust like Holland. And i know for a fact Rockies fans despised Tommy Kahnle but probably wish they had him now. Either way there is no risk so its a mute point saying how bad he was last year.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) Considering what it takes for the Orioles to consider someone damaged goods, that is probably everyone in the White Sox organization. There is no way they would take someone that is actually hurt. Maybe they have identified players, pitchers in particular, that they feel will be hurt soon. I still think it's crazy unless you are trading a guy like Avi and some lesser pitcher like Dunning or Cease. Then, maybe, but why would Baltimore do that? Unless it is totally a steal, I am thinking this whole thing is much to do about nothing. Manny Machado now knows the White Sox plan to be serious suitors next year. I read some earlier post's that Machado has a bad attitude and isn't a team player. Been trying to find some reports on that with no luck. Has anyone else heard that or can provide anything on pertaining to his perceived attitude? Thanx much appreciated.