SonofaRoache

Good point about Rodon, but sadly I see him needing extra time to heal. His body is just a wreck right now. I'd just sign the two FA starters and have Gio, Cease, those two, and Lopez or something if it came to it. When everyone is healthy the rest will figure itself out.

Well he li6st his leverage then because he did just that.

What if Jose doesn't want to go there and wants to be a lifer here? What if he wants his first ring to be here as it would mean more to him?

It is unclear if inning restrictions are even necessary. But if you restrict Kopech's innings, have him do a late spring training and pitch a few innings in the minors to rev it up until you get the year of service time back. Then call him up and let him pitch through the postseason. I think we should sign two starters so I'm not worried about the other recoveries being on inning limits. The Nationals were stupid.

This is why I said before we need to be careful about doing him wrong. If his feelings get hurt because he can't finish what he started when he took a chance on us, I see Moncada bouncing in four years to Miami. This being said, I'd offer him 3 years and 27 million to see if he bites.

I don't see pitching restrictions being a huge thing for Cease and Kopech. I also think we will sign two starters and put Lopez and Rodon in the pen, who could both emergency start if need be. The extra month or two would give them valuable experience, acclimate them to the MLB and city, and give them a chance to work on big league mistakes they made. If we call them up mid April, it may not be until June or July that they settle in. Also note these two things. 1. Their callup could be early August and that playing time would help them, even with call ups. 2. The service year is a dangerous game because the premise would be we'd possibly lose a contention year now by calling them up mid April, for an extra year in 2026 where we don't know if our top players will be here.

This is why it is a tough call. The division can be decided on whether or not we make these moves now or later. Cleveland and Minny won't be projected to win more than 90 games after this offseason. It would suck to realize we didn't win our division and lost a season to go after a title because we called these two up later. We would basically trade a run in 2020 for one in 2027, when we don't even know if Moncada, Timmy, McCann, Gio, Cease, Kopech or Rodon will still be here.

I wouldn't wait til next season to bring them up. I'd call Robert up in early August if he's earned it and Madrigal up in September if he's earned it.

Don't forget we don't need bums necessarily. We can get older ringer chasers on those one or two year deals at that time.

The sustained success will be here as we have 7 years starting next year with these guys. After that it will take a Yankees payroll to keep everybody. A big 3 allows you to supplement your talent with good prospects in your pipeline, a few good players who want to stay for cheaper and win, and ring chasers on short term deals. Again, this won't be a problem until 2026 ends, so there will be sustained success unlike any point in our recent history.

The Sox need to identify 3 hitters and 3 pitchers that they must have to win. They need to have money on deck for these 5 guys and trade the others before FA if they won't keep them, or let them walk if we are in a championship caliber season. Robert, Moncada, Madrigal Kopech, Free agent stud and Cease are the 6 guys I'd bank on for sure. If we can keep them, we can fill the roster as need be. Chances are, we'd be able to sign Rodon, Madrigal, and Eloy to good deals as they aren't complete players for various reasons. McCann won't have enough of a resume to warrant a monster deal either. The Good news is, we can make this roster work for 7 years beginning next season without getting rid of talent. We as fans will need to do our part if the team is on an Astros, Cubs, Dodgers type run to achieve a much higher payroll.

What I'm most impressed with him is that he still strikes out a lot, but his batting average is .308.

Keeping Jose would help a lot in terms of keeping Moncada. If they move on from Jose, it definitely needs to be done right. Tou don't want your key star feeling like the organization doesn't care about its lifetime players.

Well when Moncada got to Chicago Jose was his first and most important contact. From the looks of it they hang out together a lot too. When people are not from this country and play a sport together where they are together all the time, the age gap is not as big of a deal. The Sox definitely need to consider this as Moncada is the main cog of the rebuild and we cannot lose him. Also, Yonder and Jay actually did well convincing Machado to play here. We just didn't do our part offering a competitive contract.

Also remember this.... Jose and Yoan are close friends. So it would be wise for our front office to treat Jose with respect if they want to ensure Moncada stays here. Jose would definitely convince Moncada to stay if he is still here. Sending Jose packing and not allowing him to win after all this losing would be a knife in the back of this rebuild.

Not applicable to us because we also have a really good prospect at second. If we didn't have Magical, then he would have probably stayed at second.

He will get incredible attention when we start to win games. He is turning the corner now and is getting more and more coverage by the week, as we win more games. He was listed as an all-star snub, so he's getting there.

If Nick is Magic man I wouldn't mind Eloy being Rocket man.

I like this option, but I'm not sure Jose is the type to agree to it. He may want to stick it out and win here as a lifer.

I wouldn't say it sucks that his best position is third. That is a tough position to fill with a great player. We didn't need him at second anymore because we have Madrigal.

Option two exists because people may feel the players are being rushed if they come up in September. For instance, Madrigal may not reach triple A for a few weeks and a september call up could feel rushed for him. I agree with you about the re-signings you mentioned. I do believe the Sox have already formulated a plan of action for those guys and potential FAs. They have 5 years to figure it out so there is no excuse.

What's Eloy's nickname? I think people are using some variation of magic because of his last name.

When I was at the last Tigers game there were three Cubs fans sitting behind me talking shit. They called Gio garbage, and our rebuild garbage. Their fans act like they don't give a crap about us or the rivalry. We definitely needed a split to shut them up and I'd like to see them miss the playoffs so we can get good media coverage coming into the season. i

You are deciding on whether or not to bring up Robert and Madrigal and all of a sudden you can see into the future and you know that the highest win total in the division next season from a non Sox team is 88. You also can see you added a decent RF, Cole or Bum, Hammels to a one year deal, and a bullpen arm during FA. Option 1- Call them both up before September 1 and add 7 wins to your season total next year (not WAR) due to development and them being ready for showtime opening day. Option 2- Bring them up after spring training and add 2 wins to your season total next year as they need a month to get adjusted and do not have the offseason to work on major league issues they have, like they can in option 1. Option 3- Bring them up mid April and lose two extra games next season. Which option would you take? Now these aren't true totals, but it very well could come down to when we call them up.

Having Colome next year and maybe a few years after helps you win titles. I wouldn't trade him unless you get one good prospect. It should be a Gleybar Torres type of deal here. If you are only receiving offers for mediocre talents I wouldn't do it.