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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Lighty was not awful as a freshman, he was a defensive stopper on the outside for a team that was in the national title game. I agree with Diebler as he went into a shooting slump the minute he touched down in Columbus. I think you are underrating not only the talent coming in, but the talent that is already there as well as the coaching staff in place. I fully expect OSU to contend for the conference title again next year. David Lighty was an awful offensive basketball player. He was very inefficient scoring the basketball, and he turned the ball over at an incredible rate for a guy who wasn't very aggressive on offense. What talent am I underrating that is currently on campus? I think Craft is very good. Thomas has been awful in Big 10 play this year but he is clearly talented. Smith wasn't a top 100 player and hasn't seen the floor. Sibert has barely seen the floor and when he has he has been awful. They might end up good, but there is little to no evidence to support that. Let me ask you this, minus Sullinger do you think next years team is more talented then the team with Koufos, Turner, Diebler and Lauderdale as freshmen, Jamar Butler as a SR and Lighty as a sophomore. Butler and Lighty are at worst comparable talents to Thomas and Craft. Turner, Diebler, and Lauderdale were all fairly similarly ranked recruits to the guys in the 2011 class for OSU (a little lower but the 2007 HS class is quite possibly the greatest class ever when it comes to basketball) and Koufos obviously was a much better recruit than anyone in the current OSU class. That team made the NIT, I think next years team would make the tournament but if they compete for a Big 10 title I would bet it is because the Big 10 is bad. -
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) Hmmmm..... @SpearsNBAYahoo Free agent forward-center Troy Murphy has agreed to sign with the Heat, sources tell Y! Sports. Murphy also turned down Celtics. @STEIN_LINE_HQ Troy Murphy HIMSELF confirms to ESPN.com that he is going to Boston. B-O-S-T-O-N Murphy is signing with Boston. I'm actually a little surprised by that because I thought he would go to Miami where more playing time was available and that would have been big for Miami if Murphy can still produce like he did prior to this year. Mainly because it would have given them a very good rebounder and another guy to stretch the floor when Wade and Lebron drive.
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Avatar (not a single decent thing about this movie other than the visuals) Reality TV Harry Potter Also, I don't get why people are putting down Twilight. Is that really that loved? Outside of teenage girls and some older women does anyone actually like that crap. I seriously know 2 people in total that actually like those movies and books.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) What about Nebraska! I expect they will be terrible with PSU. Nebraska loses their PG and best player but they return basically everyone else from a team that has been respectable this year so they should be at least decent next year as well. -
Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 02:20 PM) No one will know what the Big 10 will be like until a few games into the regular season. I feel that Wisconsin is going to be weaker, but Jordan Taylor could prove me wrong. I think it could be a wide open year, and that any team could click and win it. This is pretty much what I expect, I think the Big 10 is deep next year in that PSU will be the only truly terrible team, but unless Sullinger and Taylor stay in school there is a decent possibility there is not a legitimate top 10-15 team in the conference. -
Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 02:08 PM) I dont think Mediocre is a good description at all. Even though YOU have no faith in Amir, he is the #2 C coming out of HS, he will play right away and is surrounded by 3 more 4 star players (including 38th ranked Scott) and another 6'9" guy (Williams #42, Ross #60, Thompson #51). This is also with the already good base of Craft, Thomas, a healthy Lenzelle, and Siebert. Without Sullinger they are still a big player for the conference title, and that alone is better than mediocre. And since you are using RCSI as your indictaor Thompson #40 Ross #41 I only use RSCI because a consensus of opinions is a much better indicator of a players true talent level than one rankings site. Amir Williams is ranked in the 70s on Rivals for instance. Mediocre might be the wrong term but while that team will be very talented it has a lot of question marks outside of Aaron Craft. Thomas has been awful in Big 10 play this year, I expect him to make a big jump (similar to Brandon Paul from last year to this year) but it isn't guaranteed. Siebert and Smith haven't played at all so who knows what to expect out of those guys and while OSU has a very good class coming in, it doesn't appear to be full of instant impact type guys like they have typically had under Matta. Outside of about the top 25 kids in the country, unless it is a particularly deep class like 2007, it is pretty hit or miss if kids make big impacts from day 1 (don't forget that guys like Diebler and Lighty who were highly ranked were awful as freshmen). If OSU is competing for the Big 10 title without Sullinger next year, it will most likely be because the Big 10 is down, not because OSU is a great team. -
Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (hitlesswonder @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 09:55 AM) The Big Ten will be trash next season. It will be Ohio State, Wisconsin and Michigan that might be good...other than that I don't see much. Purdue loses Moore and Johnson...Minnesota will lose Tubby...Indiana probably needs another year to become good. MSU obviously has good recruits and a great coach but it will be hard to replace Lucas. Illinois is likely to be very bad...no point guard at all and multiple players trying to look good for NBA scouts... Tracy Abrams is a solid PG and is tied with OSU's McD AA PG in the RSCI rankings. Brandon Paul has actually been solid running the PG position in Big 10 play for the most part as well. I'm worried more about the development of the big men and how the team chemistry will be then the PG position. -
Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 10:54 AM) Overall it may be worse, but there are alot of young players you are overlooking here at places like IU and Michigan that will improve their collective teams. Sullinger and his Dad have both said he's coming back. OSU loses Lighty, Buford, Diebler and Lauderdale, but gains another solid recruiting class and another year from their current crop of star freshman. I wouldnt sleep on them next year, they have size in the front court, a couple of big wings and another dynamic PG. Any time you bring in 2 McD's AA players, you are getting play right away talent. I'll believe Sullinger is coming back when I see it. He would just add to the long line of college players who say they are coming back and then go back on their word when they realize it is stupid to return to college when you are a first round pick. I agree that if Sullinger comes back OSU will be really good, if he isn't they are going to be mediocre. Amir Williams and Scott are good players with a lot of talent but frankly neither should be a McD AA based on rankings. Williams is 49 in the RSCI and Scott is 60 in the RSCI. Both could end up being big contributors right away but it is far from a sure thing for guys ranked around those spots, especially for Williams who is supposed to be a pretty raw big man. Who am I overlooking? I said Michigan will be solid. They certainly aren't going to be great and the upside for that team is probably about a 6 seed. I gave IU credit and said they have a chance to be a bubble team. What has IU shown this year that tells you they should be more than that? Iowa may have some young players but outside of Basabe it isn't like those guys are all that talented. Purdue doesn't really have any good young talent. Illinois has a lot of talent but who the f*** knows what to expect out of those guys. MSU has one impact freshman in Dawson but the rest of those kids aren't supposed to be great contributors early on and MSU loses Lucas who has been by far and away their best player recently. -
Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 1, 2011 -> 09:22 AM) I think the Big East, Big Ten and possibly ACC will be better. Kansas will lose the Morris twins, Texas will lose all their bigs, K-State is losing most of their scoring and the big 12 is mostly out of the top classes picture (except Texas) The Big 10 is almost certainly going to be worse next year than it is this year. Unless OSU gets insanely lucky and Sullinger comes back they are going to be much worse, even with Hummel Purdue will be worse, Wisconsin will be very good and the odds on favorite if Taylor returns but without him they are mediocre, MSU will likely be a bubble team, Illinois will have a ton of talent but I give up predicting how they will develop, Michigan should be solid, IU might be able to work their way to bubble status, Iowa will still be bad, Minnesota will be a bubble team at best unless their guards make miraculous jumps, NW will be mediocre, and PSU will be one of the worst major conference teams in the country. -
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 28, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) But that really means nothing in terms of film quality. It's up to the user to read reviews, seek out trailers, and decide. Everyone has their own taste, and I don't want to start arguing that, but you won't find many experts or pundits or average movie-goers who didn't think this year was quite exceptional when it came to truly great movies. It, without doubt, blew the 2009/2010 Oscar season out of the water. I don't think it was an all time great year but it was a really good year for the top movies. The King's Speech was phenomenal, I loved Toy Story 3, the Social Network and The Fighter were both excellent films. I thought True Grit was very good but not a great film. And I thought Inception was merely good. I still need to see 127 Hours. I haven't seen Black Swan, The Kids Are All Right or Winter's Bone and don't really plan to even though I'm sure they are good movies.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 28, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) No place is even close to as good of a fit as Miami. Agreed. Miami gives a great shot at winning a title and he is almost certainly the starting PG for the Heat and because he is a very good 3 pt shooter he fits in well with that roster. On the rest of the teams he is a backup PG.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 28, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) I liked Inception, but admittedly the only other nominee I saw was True Grit. When I think about Best Picture, I add into the category "uniqueness". The reason I never saw the King's Speech is because Ive already seen so many historical period pieces (especially about World War II) that I just would rather actually see the real history. Im sure that it was a very moving tale about a Monarch who had a speech impediment, but if you are going to get me to pay money at the theater to watch another WWII film, I better see at least 1 action sequence, otherwise Ill just go read about it on the internet. As soon as its available Ill catch it on Netflix, but in my opinion the only movie that I felt I needed to see in the theaters this year was Inception. Hate it or love it, at least it brought something different to the table. Overall I thought movies this year were meh, which would be evidenced by my lack of movie going. I enjoyed Inception and thought it was a good move but didn't think it was remotely worthy of winning an Oscar. Also, as someone who has watched a ton of science fiction movies, I didn't really feel it brought anything new to the table.
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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 27, 2011 -> 10:58 PM) whereas LeBron's resume includes many more misses that hits in that spot. You mean like just about every other player in the NBA?
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 25, 2011 -> 10:28 AM) Watching Deng's last shot again, and I'm fairly sure we wouldve gotten the board, Boozer had inside position and Noah was taking the long rebound. And that block for an and-1 against Rose still angers me this morning. Meh, I have no problem bashing officials for missed calls but that was either a no call or a foul on Rose. It certainly wasn't a charge on Lebron and with that much contact officials are generally going to call the foul.
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QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Feb 24, 2011 -> 11:00 PM) What would it take for you to believe the Bulls could take a playoff series against Miami? A blowout win in the final regular season match up? Unless they have home court I don't think they can beat Miami in a series. They aren't going to win all 3 home games and I don't think they can split in Miami.
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QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Feb 24, 2011 -> 10:47 PM) f*** yea. Deng stuck it up the Heat's ass in the 2nd half. 99, how do you feel about the Bulls matching up with the Heat in the playoffs after tonight? I still think the Heat would win in 6 but honestly at this point it wouldn't shock me if the Bulls push it to 7 so getting home court will be huge.
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Also going back to a fun argument from this summer, Deng>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hinrich
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Thank you Dwyane Wade for helping off of Deng when Rose had really no play himself.
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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 24, 2011 -> 10:26 PM) So Bosh has to have one of the worst shooting percentages(>0) in a game ever. The amount of wide open 10-15 footers he has missed in this game alone is incredible.
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LOL at Bosh tonight. You would think at some point you would stop shooting jump shots when you haven't made one and go to the basket but he just keeps putting them up.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 24, 2011 -> 04:33 PM) No luck would have been if the Bulls had no choice but to take Rose. Its easy to say now Rose was the right pick, but back then there were plenty of people who thought Beasley (myself included). If you watched them in college youd have thought Beasley would have put up Love type numbers in the NBA. Just doesnt always work that way. The guy averaged 26 pts and 12 rebounds, Love averaged 17 and 11. Picking Rose was much more difficult than you make it out to be. I was always on the Rose bandwagon and I didn't think it was a particularly difficult pick, especially once Beasley measured in at 6'7 without shoes (I realize that was far from the consensus though). I'm just not a fan of drafting a guy who looked like a combo forward #1 overall when you had the most athletic PG to ever enter the draft available to you.
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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 24, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) God damn. OJ Mayo has quite a rep for a f***ing pretty s***ty player. FIRE FORMAN! BEST RECORD SINCE 96 FIRE HIM!!! I WANT OJ MAYO!!!!! FIRE PEOPLE!!! OJ MAYOOOOOO! Ridiculous. Take it the f*** easy, Mayo isn't taking us to another level, and when Boozer or Joakim go down next year and we can insert Omer you'll see why keeping him was smart. I'm not on board with firing Forman but the sole reason the Bulls have their best record since 96 is because they lucked into the #1 pick when they had the 9th worst record in the league and less than a 2% chance at the pick. If that doesn't happen the franchise is still a mess because they refused to trade guys like Hinrich and Deng for top talent early in their careers.
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QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 24, 2011 -> 02:56 PM) Perkins to OKC for Jeff Green. Awful trade for the Celtics. I don't get how adding a combo 3/4 possibly that won't start and getting rid of a very good defensive C possibly improves that team. Especially since they just made it easier for the Heat to match up with them.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) I gotta disagree here. The Bulls need to make their run this year. First, no one knows if there will even be a next year, let alone what the draft and FA situations will look like if it happens. Second...look at guys like Paul and Williams. Each of them had a year where they really broke onto the scene and led their team to 55-ish wins. Since then, the teams around them have aged, occasionally gotten hurt, and combined with the occasional injury to them, they both have taken steps back. If the Bulls go into this playoffs healthy but with Bogans at SG, it's really throwing away an opportunity. Especially when one of your key players (Boozer) is constantly hurt and could easily break down at any time and another one of your key players (Noah) has missed substantial time in two consecutive years.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Feb 23, 2011 -> 04:51 PM) It's what I was concerned about going into this year and has been the downfall of the team. Im glad Weber is saying it but we couldve used a good wake up call before Big Ten play. They lost to f***ing UIC, if that isn't a wake up call nothing is. That team is unbelievably bad. Weber has done a poor job this year and the seniors are losers. End of story.