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QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 18, 2006 -> 11:25 PM) We must have been watching a different game then, because I didn't see much of that in the second half. Brown, McBride, and Smith has more shots than the rest of the team combined, so that doesn't really suggest that they were taking it to the hole. When they did get inside, there generally wasn't anyone on Washington on them so they made the basket. They weren't initiating contact on the drives like Washington was. There were some crap calls on the perimeter, but most of the ones I saw were in the first half. Pretty much every foul on Illinois in the second half occurred in the paint. You can't really say that guys sitting on the bench had a major affect. Augustine still played 37 minutes and McBride was in there for 31. That's actually more than they average on the year. Randle played only slightly less than usual. The only major one was Pruitt. Rich's fouls in the second half guarding Roy were on the perimeter. Jamar's fouls in the second half were on the perimeter. And yes I can say the guys sitting on the bench had a major affect. Its not how many minutes but when you play. And when you have 3 starters on the bench with 4 fouls with under 10 minutes left in a tourney game and have to have Warren Carter and Chester Frazier on the floor at the same time as a result that has a major impact on the game. And as for Jamar, Rich, and Dee taking the majority of the shots, that is true. But the majority of Dee's shots were going towards the basket today and Rich drove the ball quite a bit as well. And you are still ignoring the fact that Jones was allowed to make contact with Dee constantly 30 feet away from the basket which makes initiating an offense much harder and the fact that Brockman was getting away with all sorts of contact in the paint. And we had 18 more points in the paint than Washington so we clearly weren't just sitting on the perimeter.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 18, 2006 -> 10:25 PM) I watched most of the game and while they were calling a lot of BS fouls in the first half, it wasn't that bad in the second. Illinois was constantly throwing the ball around the perimeter and shooting jumpers, while rarely driving into the lane or throwing the ball down low. Washington on the other hand was driving into the paint at every opportunity. It's kind of hard to draw a lot of fouls when you're not driving and initiating contact. This has happened to the Illini a lot IIRC, and I'd bet if you went back and looked at the stats from previous games it happened in most of their close games. You can keep blaming the refs, but Illinois wasn't getting easy shots in the second half and went a long time without scoring. Augustine was a complete non-factor after the 15 minute mark of the second half, which is unexcusable considering what he was doing earlier. I know some of that was foul trouble, but he stilled played for most of that stretch. Our offense attacked the basket quite a bit tonight. Jamar, Rich, Randle, and Dee all drove on several occasions. We also went inside to our bigs a lot more than usual. Usually Illinois does sit on the perimeter so we don't get to the foul line but that wasn't the case tonight until our entire starting lineup was out of the game with foul trouble. What kills me is that Randle and Rich got all their fouls on handchecks away from the basket. Yet, Jones was allowed to hold and grab Dee the entire game, which pushed Dee far away from the basket yet they didn't call him for it once. And I will continue to blame the refs thank you very much. If it wasn't for the refs UW wouldn't have even been in the game. We were getting great looks at the basket until 3 of our starters had to go to the bench with foul trouble. Augie needed more touches but Brockman was allowed to push him off the blocks and they were really making sure Augie wouldn't get the ball. Rich exploited this when we went on our run but unfortunately he got called for a couple of extremely weak fouls when he was actually moving his feet.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 18, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) Well the Mike Davis era is officially over; best of luck in the future. I hate using officiating as a crutch, but good lord. People like to say good teams would prevail from ridonkulous refs, but it shouldn't have to be like that. It should be called straight up and both ways from the beginning. Absolutely disgusting. Indiana didn't look all that horrible, but I'll never believe they got the fair shot. Duke West and Duke will definitely match up in the Final Four if they keep getting these calls. You guys got screwed Greasy. It was apparently f*** the Big 10 in the ass day.

I know I'm late to the party but I'm still pissed about the hose job Illinois got from the refs today. We were handchecking on the perimeter and the refs decided to call that incredibly close today. I wouldn't have a problem with that, except for the fact that Washington was doing the same damn thing on D without getting called at all. Jones did nothing but hold and push Dee all night and never got called. Also, Dee and Randle drove several times with contact and there was no calls. Two other things that absolutely kill me were Roy's major walk on his drive when he tied the game not being called and the 10 seconds Washington was given to inbounds the ball on the play WHarris mentioned. Absolutely pathetic officiating. I hope those guys are never allowed to work another college basketball game ever again. Also, have to love that the team with 38 points in the paint goes to the line 11 times and the team with 20 points in the paint goes to the line 39 times.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) Indiana finds a way to win it. Two weird plays destroy my upset pick. Same here. Stupid Heath not being able to dribble the ball. Indiana got lucky as hell.

Anyone else notice that Lofton travelled before the shot?

Strength of schedule is a joke to look at by the way. Illinois got hammered in SOS for playing really bad cupcakes instead of cupcakes. Lets compare UNC's schedule to Illinois. I'm not even complaining about the seed anymore but people who bring up SOS don't seem to understand the RPI. You can have a much higher strength of schedule without actually having a more difficult schedule. UNC Gardner Webb 157 Home Cleveland St. 245 Home UC Santa Barbara 219 Home Illinois 14 Home (tourney team) Kentucky 41 Away (tourney team) St. Louis 101 Home Santa Clara 184 Home Southern Cal 117 Away UNC Ashville 239 Home Davidon 94 Home (tourney team) Arizona 24 Home (tourney team) Illinois S. Dakota St. 276 Home Texas Pan American 330 Home Texas Southern 307 Home Wichita St. 27 Neutral Court (tourney) Rutger 75 Neutral UNC 12 Away (tourney) Xavier 77 Home/United Center (tourney) Arkansas Little Rock Home 216 Georgetown 36 Home (tourney) Oregon 147 Semi Away Coppin St. 215 Home Missouri 139 Neutral Southeast Missouri St. 313 Home Tennessee Martin 224 Home We played the same amount of tourney teams, and Illinois played more top 100 teams as well as more away and neutral games. The reason Illinois SOS is so much worse is due to extra games against cupcakes. Instead of playing the Southeast MIssouri Sts of the world, Illinois had played Radford, Yale, Eastern Kentucky, etc. the SOS would have jumped dramatically when in fact the difficulty of the schedule would really be no different and Illinois would have been in the top 10 in the RPI.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 11:27 PM) It'll be interesting to see what he does when he's finally playing people closer to his size. He has dominated every big man he has played against throughout his high school career. He plays against guys his size during AAU and at the summer camps and dominated every big man in his class. The guy would be start for quite a few NBA teams next year, he is going to be a dominant force at the college level.

QUOTE(Brian @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 10:39 PM) Thornwood upsets Homewood-Flossmor in 3OT, 40-38. At the UIC. Simeon sent Brian Carlwell and Proviso East home in the 2nd game, 67-57. Both team advance down state. Proviso East's guards absolutely suck. They have no concept of how to play the game of basketball. None of them can pass at all and they all just chuck contested 25 foot threes. Carlwell showed me a lot of potential. He runs the floor like a guard, he is a terrific passer for a 7'0", he has good size, nice touch for a big man, and he altered nearly every shot not taken by Simeon other than the ones taken by Rose. Unfortunately his guards decide to ignore him over and over again for some reason. He needs to work on fighting for position in the blocks a little better and he has to learn to keep the ball high because he got tied up a couple of times by guards. Weber has a ton to work with in Carlwell. Rose is phenomenal. Out of control at times but a terrific talent. Unbelievable first step. Not quite at Eric Gordon's level IMO as a player but I drool over the thought of the two of them in a backcourt together.

Well we got f***ed. Thank you tourney committee.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 11, 2006 -> 02:24 PM) DEFENSE Close game with a few minutes left. I sure hope the Hawks can hang on, but man are they playing some D. Actually its more really crappy basketball than defense. Both teams are extremely tired and are very short on every shot.

Anyone hear anything about Allan Ray yet?

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 09:51 PM) Updates, anyone... Not so much the score, but moreso how the game is going... MSU playing well? ILL playing s***ty? MSU has played decent. More than anything it has been Illinois playing terrible, Dee is off and forcing bad shots. And Illinois is giving up a lot of offensive rebounds. 9-18 from the FT line has killed us more than anything else though.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 10:21 PM) This Gonzaga team is going down SO FAST in the NCAA Tourney, it isn't even funny. If they're a one seed, they'll definitely be the first one seed knocked off. Gosh, I hope Marquette is in the Zags bracket. If Gonzaga is a one seed the tourney committee is an absolute fraud. Gonzaga doesn't even deserve a 2 seed.

Gonzaga is a joke, they need a guy to choke on a wideopen layup to beat a HS level basketball team.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 10:08 PM) I don't want anyone to say that wasn't a traveling call. Borderline, but GU definitely got away with a foul on LMU's next possession.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 10:03 PM) Since when is 5 pulling away? LMU up 1 now

Gonzaga is a bunch of cocky arrogant thugs. I hate this group of players more than Duke.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 01:10 PM) So loooking through some of the Best Picture movies, the Green Mile is one of the few that actually makes me sad. What year would Hotel Rwanda have been? I also thought that was one of the better movies I've ever seen. Green Mile is a great movie. Hotel Rwanda would have been 2004 I believe.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 12:57 PM) Good Will Hunting is not a good movie. Robin Williams is pretty good, and I like the "Do you like apples?" line, but the acting, overall, is terrible and the dialogue is worse. Worse, still, is that two guys from Boston can't do a passable Boston accent. I'm not a huge fan of Good Will Hunting, although I do like it. But I can't even watch Titanic straight through. Agree with whoever said it was a weak year for nominees because I didn't think As Good as it Gets was really a great film either.

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 01:12 PM) I loved it.. when the damn ship finally sank. Ugh.. what a snoozefest that was. Agreed completely.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 12:52 PM) why? Well to be completely honest it bored the hell out of me, I can't even sit through the damn thing, and I would never watch it again. I don't have trouble with long movies at all yet this one dragged on forever to me. And there is nothing special about it at all. The plot was not original at all. Poor boy meets rich girl and they fall in love is done all the time and in this case is done rather poorly. In the case of the Titanic at that point in time not exactly very realistic on top of that. I'm not a critic I don't watch movies to complain about little details but I do expect to either enjoy movies I got to or at least be compelled by them and Titanic did neither. Plus the dialogue was pretty bad at parts. This doesn't always bother me but "I'm the king of the world" is about as bad as it gets. I know a lot of people like this movie and I don't have a problem with that. There are movies I like that people absolutely hate, but for my money Titanic was a C type picture at best.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 12:41 PM) LA Confidential>>>>>>Titanic. I'm sure it is. Out of the Oscar winners I've seen in the last 15 years Titanic is easily the worst film of the group.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 11:31 AM) 1997 (70th) BEST PICTURE As Good As It Gets -- James L. Brooks, Bridget Johnson and Kristi Zea, Producers The Full Monty -- Uberto Pasolini, Producer Good Will Hunting -- Lawrence Bender, Producer L.A. Confidential -- Arnon Milchan, Curtis Hanson and Michael Nathanson, Producers * Titanic -- James Cameron and Jon Landau, Producers Still boggles my mind that Titanic won an Oscar for best Picture. I haven't seen L.A. Confidential or The Full Monty but Good Will Hunting>>>>>>>>>>>>Titanic.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 5, 2006 -> 10:44 PM) It wasn't a HORRIBLE movie, but it was a lock for Oscars based on the plotline if it was ANY good at all. I am not going to argue since you clearly disagree, but the Oscars have a history of this crap. Care to provide some examples? Edit: And I haven't seen Brokeback so I have no idea if it is worthy of a nomination but I doubt it got one just because of its subject.