No, they aren't anywhere near Indiana's top two for next year. But these are class of '05 guys. Palmer is pretty much a consensus top 50 player and I have seen him as high as 20 on a couple lists. I've seen Palmer play and I was very impressed. He has a very strong build for a junior in high school, he had a good touch from about 15 feet, and was a very good athlete as well. Jamar Smith is a borderline top 100 player that was being recruited by Kansas, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Marquette. The key with him is that he is a very good shooter and that has been one the team's biggest weaknesses this year, besides Rich McBride of course.