Nardiwashere

Brad Keller is younger than some of the guys on your list of lost prospects and he has actually had major league success. Where do you make the distinction between un-droppable and trash? Years of control?

Ok. I agree. If a team was theoretically able to keep everyone in perpetuity that has ever been associated with their organization in the hopes that some will exceed all reasonable expectations, while still being able to make other moves, they should keep them.

The list of guys you provided were all 26-29 years old. We acquired someone in that age range last week and @WhiteSox2023 and @baseball_gal_alywanted to storm Guaranteed Rate with pitchforks. Do you really think letting Matthew Thompson go is analogous to Tatis or are you just trying to win an argument? These guys saw him up close for four years.

Someone like Tatis was very young and raw. No one thought he would become what he ended up being. However, there is a difference between getting rid of Tatis and getting rid of a 28 year old that you have seen in your system for multiple seasons and can make an educated decision on. You can't keep an infinite number of these guys. I'm no expert but I'd be willing to bet that every team will have a list of guys like you named that they "lost." Hell, there are guys on your list that have been with 2 organizations since they left the Sox. I don't think its evidence of league-wide panic at various GM positions. Another thing- no front office is going to be perfect. Every team will lose a Cronin and sign a Hill. That doesn't move the needle for me unless the front office misses more than it hits. Jury is still out. EDIT: Isn't HIll doing ok?

Haha, actually, don't we still have Lane Ramsey? https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=ramsey000lan Yay!

Come on now. Jake Cousins? He's 30 and they had him in the organization for like 90 days. You don't think that is picking nits? Teams make decisions on guys like the ones on your list all the time. Don't think Getz is going to be remembered for losing out on Lane Ramsey.

Ok. If the two guys they lost are Thompson and Rodriguez, I'm cool with that. I am willing to bet they got rid of Thompson because they don't think he's good... not because Getz woke up in a cold sweat and was panicked that he would lose his job during a season without any expectations less than a year after being hired by Jerry Reinsdorf lol. Yeah I don't think trading Brad Keller for a single A reliever is a winning strategy either. I just don't think it matters in the big scheme of things. I imagine they either saw a small chance he could do something or they thought he could provide innings. Who would you trade for Kam Misner? A lot of handwringing happened when they traded the soft throwing bullpen arm for Julks.

I'm not trying to be argumentative but what prospects have they lost? They got rid of Jose Rodriguez and traded Matthew Thompson. They traded Mena for Fletcher. You can say you disagree with the trade but Fletcher isn't a placeholder vet. Except for Mena, all the prospects at the start of the year that most people thought were in the team's future plans are still here, no?

Once the kids start coming up in the second half of this year and next year and Getz is still trying to add guys like Ragael Ortega (when there are prospects being blocked), I'll be with you guys. I don't see downside right now in seeing if you can get lucky. If not, what does it cost the team? I'd much rather watch Nastrini and the others than guys like Keller. I think that's coming fairly soon. I also think if he brought up Iriarte and Eder and Bush and Adams right now, we'd hear a lot more of "Getz is panicking" type posts. Its still only May.

They are s%*#. I want the roster turned over. Why would anyone want the team to stick with bad players? You pick guys up, drop guys, see who clicks, see who doesn’t. These are all dudes on the margins. He’s not DFA’ing anyone of significance. Why does anyone care? To pretend that it’s a mystery what Getz is doing or saying DFAing some scrub like Keller is being disingenuous.

I find it hard to believe anyone truly gave a s%*#.

They need to make some type of decision on them. They are just taking up spots.

And we are going to see Nastrini and Cannon again this year.

For about 35 years, we had studs at 1B/DH one after another and now we have nothing. Its a weird feeling.

What kids were squeezed out? Fletcher was bad to start the season(a lot of people here act like they've already written him off) and now he's back. Sosa has had a couple hundred ABs and hasn't looked good at all. It seems like they don't love him either. Colas? Doesn't feel like he's in their future plans. People trashed Getz when Ramos was brought up. Am I missing anyone?

Everyone's joking around acting like this is impossible but if they kept Luis Rodriguez, who knows what could have happened.

haha So your analysis is even more surface level than I previously thought. I figured you were arguing "Luis Rodriguez shouldn't have been traded for Corey Julks because Julks is older and I'd rather have Rodriguez because he is younger" when its actually "I don't want to acquire anyone unless they are early 20s no matter how little or insignificant the cost is"

Ok. I'll answer your question even though you didn't answer mine. A GM of a team would trade for a 28 year old player if he thinks he's more valuable to them than the player they are trading away. In very rare instances, there is more to determining the value of a baseball player than how old they are. There was like a statistical revolution in baseball a while back. They have all sorts of ways to determine if how valuable a player is - birthday (most important, obviously), day of the week they were born, which hospital they were born in, etc. Ok... your turn again... Tell me why he shouldn't have been traded in addition to him being younger than the guy he was traded for.

Tell me why Luis Rodriguez is good other than age. It sounds like you know a lot about him.

All things equal (and without knowing anything about the particular players), you'd rather have the younger guy. That's fine. But if you deal a couple of them that you don't think will "click" ion order to get guys you do want, its not the end of the world. Definitely not "fire-able" or "malpractice."

We should sign 15 guys who can't legally drink from College of Dupage baseball team and package them for Ohtani + cash.

Chris Getz was an awesome Farm Director. He had a hand in bringing along future stars such as Jose Rodriguez and Luis Rodriguez. Too bad he's the worst GM in the league and is getting rid of all this super elite talent.

He's going to hit 92 twice in his next outing and half the board will start telling everyone the Astros unlocked him and he throws mid to upper-90s now.

This is such a insignificant trade that I don't care. I wont pretend that I knew who either Julks or Rodriguez were yesterday but I am pretty sure neither one will be anything for any team. I'll trust the guys who see Rodriguez pitch daily over randoms at their work computer googling "Luis Rodriguez age." I'll also assume that if getting rid of Luis Rodriguez was such a horrible move that is a "fireable offense", we could have gotten something better than Corey Julks.

Who gives a f***? Do you have actual opinions about Luis Rodriguez or are you just looking at their birthdays?