Dominikk85

We simply don't know it yet. Maybe Abrams becomes Lindor and vaughn becomes justin Smoak. Or vaughn becomes Goldschmidt and Abrams becomes tim beckham.

Last month he had a 128 wrc+. First month was really bad but August he was quite good.

Obviously he is not getting fired in season while making the post season but I could see them upgrading next season. I don't think he is as bad as people think because some of his moves are questionable but also caused by constraints of the roster, especially a solid but not very deep bullpen which means that sometimes you have to risk losing a game and hoping a struggling pitcher gets out of it but I also think it would be possible to get an upgrade if the right guy becomes available. Ultimately it will depend on how the team does in the post season. If the sox lose in the first round RR might be gone. But if they make the WS or at least the semifinal (is it still called ALCS?) he will probably stay. I think he is getting along well with the players and keeps them happy so that is worth something but tactically it would be possible to get an upgrade. Also EE and grandal haven't been that bad recently. EE had a 110 wrc+ in august and grandal had a 128 wrc+ in august.

Obviously he is not getting fired in season while making the post season but I could see them upgrading next season. I don't think he is as bad as people think because some of his moves are questionable but also caused by constraints of the roster, especially a solid but not very deep bullpen which means that sometimes you have to risk losing a game and hoping a struggling pitcher gets out of it but I also think it would be possible to get an upgrade if the right guy becomes available. Ultimately it will depend on how the team does in the post season. If the sox lose in the first round RR might be gone. But if they make the WS or at least the semifinal (is it still called ALCS?) he will probably stay. I think he is getting along well with the players and keeps them happy so that is worth something but tactically it would be possible to get an upgrade.

He does have some warts as a hitter, for example he also has a 37% career postseason K Rate and seems to struggle against the really good pitchers but overall he still usually has posted like a 115-120 wrc+ and he could get there too. He also is an elite defensive catcher where the average wRC+ is like 90 so him hitting 110 is basically like a 1b hitting 130 when it comes to plus/minus for your team. He did slightly underperform this year so far but not that much and it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up with a 115 wrc+ too this year. If you expected that he hits 300 that was not realistic anyway, he is a 240 hitter who hits 25 bombs with lots of walks in a full season and that will come with some empty weeks.

Grandal is underperforming a little but he still has a quite solid season. Sure you would want him a bit better and he will likely get there but he always was a streaky hitter who strikes out and gets a lot of his value by walks. He is only hitting 226 but has a 345 obp and a solid 106 wRC+. He also has 0.7 war which is a 3 war full season pace. That is not quite what you hoped for but he definitely isn't a black hole and only should get better.

I would also be a bit cautious. I think he will be a good mlb hitter but as it was said he never played above high A and while he did good but did not destroy it either. He also only played in sim games in the last 2 months. Yeah he did well in spring but Chris davis batted .400 in spring and now he is back to hitting sub .150, that doesn't mean much. I don't think he would embarrass himself and likely he would be better than mazara but another 300 minor league plate appearances probably wouldn't hurt his development either. But if you want to bring him up bring him up now because of service time and getting maximum ABs before the playoffs.

Yeah robert is still raw and he will throw away ABs but he also is able to make adjustments. He will strike out on 3 sliders in the dirt but also has the ability to come back from that and hit a hanging slider 450 feet the next AB. that is a valuable skill even though it still needs refinement.

MVP: I think Jose and Tim both could be in the running for the MVP, maybe even robert. CY: giolito is currently second in WAR to bieber Roy: Robert us probably the favorite to win it. MVP and CY are probably a bit of an outside chance but robert should run away with the ROY.

Got away with one here against cruz, that was middle middle.

Yes, there are rare cases when a delivery change works. Halladay did that too and became great. But it feels most of the time a player does that he gets hurt or performs worse. Verlander also supposedly had a new super healthy pitching motion and he got hurt quickly.

I think that could be the end of it, maybe he gets a shot in Korea or Japan. I think it was a big mistake trying to change the delivery. Maybe his body would have broken down but maybe he could have been a good reliever with that delivery. Really 9 out of 10 times delivery changes don't work because the body was used to that for a decade plus. I would never do delivery changes, either you just let the guy pitch with that (like sale) or you don't draft wacky deliveries in the first place if you don't like them.

Yeah that would be a huge health risk. Even if he threw some pens that can't compare to throwing under game stress. Ramping up to full intensity and start of the season are usually the biggest risk periods.

Especially not as long eloy is in left. Can't have two bad fielders even though robert covers a lot of ground.

Mazara definitely has a lit more range than vaughn. But sure the overall package wouldn't be worse than mazara but then again mazara never has been that bad. Just because mazara is very bad it doesn't mean it's a good idea to stretch vaughn to the OF. Mazara is not really playable either. But the sox seem to be committed to ride it out with mazara otherwise they would have made a deal at the deadline.

I think vaughn is a ballplayer which means his athleticism plays a bit up. Vaughn is a below average athlete even for first base (probably a slower runner than abreu) but he has some instincts so he won't butcher the easy plays. You could see that when he played third in the intrasquad games, he has no range but he would make the plays on balls hit right at him because he was calm and focused unlike yermin who messed up half of the throws. I think pretty much the same would happen in RF. He wouldn't embarrass himself out there and basically catch everything in a 30 ft circle around him but not get to everything else, I.e if it is near the sideline, a blooper or at the fence he won't get to it but he also won't drop balls hit right at him. So I do think you could put him there for 3 or 4 games a season but definitely not full time or even real part time, more like an emergency guy

With vaughn you either need to bring him up now or wait those 15 days in 2021. The worst thing would be to keep him down this year and then bring him up next opening day, that would be a total waste as both means the same for his service time. He already is guaranteed a white sox player until 2026 so either bring him up now or leave him down until he is under contract till 27.

The sox starters have been really good. They struggled in the first week with like an 8 era but since they have been dominant being 5th in the majors with a 3.5 era

I think scouting is mostly dead, they use mostly trackman data, videos and stuff like that now and maybe a bit of scouting. Teams have fired a lot of scouts. Also I think HS and int players will do more training early on and less games. And long term mlb might want to use college ball as a free dev system like football does. That means most draft guys will be college with a few very talented HS exceptions.

I would just keep vaughn down until 2021. Maybe he could help the team but there already is a roster crunch at 1b/dh. No need to start his clock now, let him earn it in the minors next year. I would just start him in AA next year and if he starts hot you call him up after a month. That way you get the extra service year plus super 2 and the crunch should be resolved a little as EE option won't be picked up. Start collins or yermin at DH for that month and then call up Vaughn,trade collins and enjoy him until 2027.

I think that is a good deal for the Padres. Naylor can hit but he is more of a dh stretched to OF and doesn't get to his power because he hits on the ground too much. Quantrill has potential but is 25 and has not performed that well in the minors. From the Indians side quantrill makes sense because they have extremely good pitcher development and could find an extra gear. They should have gotten a legitimate outfielder though and not a guy that likely is a DH soon. The Padres could of course regret trading quantrill, with the right coaching he could become really good. Trading cantillo and Owen was smart though because they are rule 5 eligible after 21 so better trade them now as long they have value (they are unlikely to be mlb ready in 22 with the lost minor league season this year.

Many of those guys put out tons of rumors but only remember when they occasionally get one right. If you predict 100 trades and 10 of them happen you predicted a lot but you got 90% wrong. But many operate that way even some pretty well known journalists.

Coop leaking that mental health thing really hurt the sox here. Teams will leverage that in trade talks to suppress his value. Really dumb by coop unless he is a genius and knows kopech is the next randy johnson and he wants to force the FO to keep him:).

Definitely not both. Hader is worth a 55-60 fv and then say a 45+ as a second piece. Two 55s would be way too much. So a fair price would be say kopech plus sheets or Rutherford, maybe a 40 as a throw in too.

That post is a bit contradictory. The post you quoted said "no more mediocre players" and you agreed with it but at the same time you don't want to part with the key prospects. Either take is very understandable but you can't have both. Either you get just ok filler pieces for the second rate prospects or you get stars in their prime but then you have to give up some top prospect. So you can't have both unless you want the sox to not make any trades at all.