Dominikk85

Good discussion here. It seems white sox fans tend to be more reasonable, when I read political discussions in cubs forums it always seemed to be at least 40% crazy right wing guys.

Probably will still miss time even if whole season is cancelled, some come back after 12 months but average is like 15-18 months, sometimes even more. More likely timeline for him is like after all star break 2021.

It would suck for every team to lose a year of their window but teams at the start of their window still are in a better situation. Sucks way more when it happens towards the end of your window, sometimes this is your only shot (like the royals when they won their WS and shortly after the team fell apart). If you lose that year (nats maybe too last year who also were more towards the end of a 5-6 year window, albeit they were already supposed to be after the window after harper left). At least the sox will have 4-5 more chances after 2020 if 2020 doesn't happen.

Trump just switches what he says every day, can't give too much on his words.

This crisis is probably the biggest crisis of the western world since the end of the cold war, the finance crisis and Islamic terrorism is nothing against that. In the end it will cause hundreds of thousands of deaths and a worldwide recession that is worse than any recession in the last 50 years. Unfortunately people realized it too late, just two weeks ago people still were partying and not taking it seriously and now it has hit them hard. Some have suggested to continue work and just let the old people die to prevent the recession but this is not doable even if you accept the deaths because there are not enough ICU beds in hospitals to treat all the people and if you don't shut down there us no space to treat other patients either and health care would collapse. Thus unfortunately there is no alternative to lockdown which will cause a recession of course.

If the season would be cancelled the Dodgers would be a big loser as they made that big trade for that one betts season. Would suck for them giving up that much and not get a game from betts.

They could still start an 81 game season around late june so until then they don't need to cancel. So if they could start a shortened spring training june first and then regular season june 24th or so they could play 81 games and a normal post season. If they can't start anything (not even spring training) by mid July there might not be a season. I believe there will be a season albeit a truncated one.

I think this mostly means draft rankings are mostly set now by preseason rankings and a little bit by the small sample this year. The stats from this season mean very little but some information like health and velo gains or losses or power gains by hitters (trackman) are still out there. Teams can't really use era or ops data from this year but things like velo and max EV are telling even in a small sample.

Regarding nick Gonzalez he has performed extremely well but longenhagen said he played in a very weak conference and did look not so good against some of the better pitchers looking overwhelmed by high 80s fastballs. Wonder if that could mean he could fall. He definitely has the tools but maybe the hit tool isn't that advanced.

Probably reconsidered corona jokes after the gobert disaster:)

Considering the number of graduations the system is still decent. The only bad thing is that a lot of depth has evaporated due to prospects failing to develope or getting injured. In the last 2-3 years a ton of guys who were ranked close to top100 busted or regressed. Sox player dev and medical staff can be blamed for that. Fortunately they seem to be investing more in player dev and sabermetrics now but it is a little late now because there isn't as much high upside talent left to develope. They really would have needed that player dev a year or two ago, maybe then the system now would be deeper.

They didn't even do that well in the draft but their international scouting is off the charts.

Arenado does this too. If not timed correctly it could lead to issues but if you do it early enough it might help feeling a little more load on the back side. I likely wouldn't teach it but don't see it as a big issue

Let's wait till the summer, abreu is always bad in April when it is cold but when it gets warm he usually heats up too. Of course he is getting older and there is risk but even if he is bad his last year the sox have the financial flexibility to afford that plus they can get an extra year of service time out of vaughn if they keep him down till end of next April.

That would be a huge competetive advantage for the Rays and marlins since they are used to play in front of no fans. Sorry that pun was too easy:).

Top 5 Rounds definitely but Not top2. Really in round 2 a reliever or bench bat is a good result and teams thus liked college relievers for a while because of this but then they found out college relievers do bust rather often so mlb reliever is like the absolute ceiling. Most really good relievers in mlb have been drafted as starters so in the first two rounds I might take a guy with reliever risk (even then only if you don't pick top15) but you still want to have starter upside. Now 4th or 5th round is a different story but first two rounds you want a guy who at least has like a 40% chance to start.

If the sox are in contention at the deadline I could see a trade for a high level reliever. The sox pen isn't terrible but certainly lacks doninant back end guys, cishek is a decent addition but he seems to be a bit in decline too. Not saying cishek and colome are bad, they can be decent but it would help to have that closer who strikes out 30+% of his batters faced and a deadline trade ideally for a guy with 2 plus years of control could adress that. Apart from Vaughn, kopech and madrigal almost all prospects of the sox could be available for such a trade or maybe even collins.

Yeah, he is usually quite bad in spring training and also first month of mlb season (like abreu too) but gets much better in the summer.

There are fat good mlb Players and some even had a long career (many declined early though) but the majority of mlb players is not fat especially if you look at non 1b/dh guys.

Should the sox draft college to fit the 2020-2026 window timeline better? Or not worry about this and juat get the guy they like most?

60fv? You are talking 60 fv upside if they perform a couple years, right? Right out of the draft fangraphs never had more then 2 60s and 11 was never better than a 50 except for 2016 which was very deep. A 60 upside guy would be great too of course.

I think vaughn has a bit less power than killebrew but could be a better hitter. Killebrew is just a career 256 hitter (i.e 50 grade bat) while fangraphs has rated vaughn as a 65 grade bat (.290). Killebrew had several mid 40s homer seasons and I expect vaughn to be more a low to mid 30s guy maybe with a 40 as an exception.

The Trade itself was great for the red sox. The extension might turn out bad but the 3 years they traded for were lights out, he was worth 17.4 war those 3 years. Still a good trade for the sox even though moncada took longer than expected.

I would guess 320/410/570 or so

I think Vaughn could play well in the majors right now, he basically is a a finished product. However since the sox have a logjam at 1b/dh with EE, abreu, Collins and maybe even Mercedes if he makes the roster Vaughn probably will be parked in the minors a little. I still think he will be up in fall, AA pitching is just not a match for him and he isn't learning much there.