yesterday333

Can we stop with the panic button stuff? It was the plan. My guess is the team knew the plan. Nobody was panicking. You can argue that you don’t like the plan but this was not being scared. I didn’t like the plan but I knew it was coming. It didn’t work. But it is not because of in game decisions. Knowing the kind of manager RR is, this probably wasn’t even his plan. He was just following it.

Yuck... that would make defense worse at every one of those positions.

Too bad he didn’t explain what “it works” means...

Exactly. Both ways could’ve worked and both could’ve fallen apart. But either way people were gonna blame RR for it falling apart. Haha there is a reason I don’t post very often cuz I don’t like how a lot respond to differing opinions.

I would have let Dunning go til a couple runs were given up or around 3 innings. I also would’ve used Bummer later. Alas we still probably should have won the game with these things going wrong (the injury and under performing). I didn’t hate the plan but I would not have used it.

That’s just my prediction. I think we sign him and he platoons with Engel. I also think the ifa we sign being Cespedes or Colas will be the long term answer. I don’t love or hate Joc but he fits the need.

That was very well said. You and I disagree on this topic too. RR followed the plan to a t. I disagreed with the plan. Everything has to go right for it to work but I can see why it was the plan.

My prediction is we sign Bauer and Joc and bring back Colome. And crazy probably won’t/can’t happen prediction we sign both Colas and Cespedes.

Nobody in the league was willing to meet the price... should tell you something. But only Hahn is an idiot for not meeting it I guess.

It was the plan before the game started. I can almost guarantee it wasn’t RRs plan. Lots of smart people agreed with the plan. This is not RRs fault for following the plan.

I think you are expecting too much to go right in this case. What if the rookie comes in and lays an egg and walks 3 or 4 cuz of nerves? Just give Dunning a couple more innings. But I don’t blame RR cuz this is what most people thought we should do.

All of those reasons are why you don’t do a bullpen day. When things don’t work out exactly as planned it puts you in a big hole. I don’t blame rr for it but I really thought it wasn’t a good idea and everyone here was all for it.

I think they should talk to the players about what they think of him after the collapse of the last couple weeks. Did the players give up on him? Do they think it’s his fault? Was it him who sucked the fun out of the team? I don’t have the answers to these questions but if the players don’t wanna play for him anymore then fire him.

We ran into exactly why you don’t do a bullpen game. One injury and a couple guys off their game and we run out of pitchers. I was against the bullpen game the whole time but this is exactly what most the board was saying to do the whole time. Pull Dunning at the first sign of struggle. I would not have gone that route but most people here had already stated that is what they would do.

If I recall correctly when they experimented with robo umps in some random league the batters said the zone was bigger vertically but smaller horizontally then they are used to.

Basically there is very little real manipulation of the strike zone according to the rules.

It’s not while swinging it’s when prepared to swing...

Or they want the game as prime time....

Haha so a way to cheat this is to wear your pants low... it would drop the top level of the strike zone(not by much though)

I honestly don’t know this... what is the definition of the strike zone?

Well where the player is standing shouldn’t effect the strike zone... it’s over the plate no matter where you stand. But standing up and crouching down can make it taller and shorter depending...

Also when does the strike zone finalize? When the pitcher starts his motion? When the ball is released or crosses? When the batter gets in his stance?

Also to be pointed out is that I would bet teams like the cubs yanks red sox and dodgers get more calls for them then everybody else. Just like how the nba gives calls to the stars. The game should be as fair as possible and not left to human guessing. And to having technology replace your job, do you use any technology in your job? That probably took somebody’s job... we should get rid of all computers... can’t have technology doing our jobs for us.

That’s what I actually believe... it’s just an idea I thought I would throw out there...

Random thought and I don’t think I believe it... but does RR favor Hispanic players over white guys? I mean so many bad decisions seem to reflect that. Playing mazara over Engel, sending down Mendick and keeping Yolmer, batting EE over McCann, ever pitching Cordero, even the way Collins has been handled. But its probably just an old guy stuck in his way of managing baseball