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Check my math here to see if I'm wrong somewhere: 2018 - service year 1 2019 - service year 2 2020 - service year 2 - keep him down for ~1.5 months (this september + regular 2 weeks needed) and he won't have enough for a full year of service 2021 - service year 3 2022 - service year 4 2023 - service year 5 2024 - service year 6

It will. I think the same thing (like even the September call up) happened with Reyes for the Cardinals. In other news whiskey sales on the South Side shot up 2354% during the evening rush

The biggest questions now should be how this impacts our offseason plan and if there is any way for us to get back some of that time that he is going to lose. I think any chance of us contending next year is probably gone now with some guys not taking the steps forward that we would have wanted and this leaving a spot in the top of the rotation open. I would not be surprised to see us sell off and try to push back our window a little further. Rodon looks great, but who knows if he will sign an extension and if we would even want to with how injured he has been. We should look what the landscape if like for him and weigh keeping him with the downside of another injury versus the risks of even more prospects. Abreu and Avi should probably be traded, but after their respective season I can't see that happening in the offseason, so we might have to go into next year with them and hope for a bounce back. If Castillo plays well this last month of the season he should attract some trade interest and he might be expendable with how good Narvaez has looked offensively and the catchers we have coming up through the system needing spots. Going into next year expecting to rebuild would also allow us to keep trotting Palka and Engel out there to see what they can become with even more major league experience. As for Kopech, assuming he is not healthy for all of next season, we may be able to justify sending him down to start 2020 so he can get back up to speed against lesser competition which would also give us a chance to gain an extra year of control which will make the pain of losing all of next year hurt less. If my math is right that would give us control through 2024 versus 2023.

Especially because he said it never progressed to pain but was just like normal soreness.

This is also the same team that DEVELOPED Chris Sale and attempted to help him pitch in a way that kept his arm healthy throughout the whole year as opposed to what is happening with the Red Sox where he misses a month with shoulder inflammation.

So can we agree Kopech's nickname is Rainmaker?

Looks like he is another guy that is rule 5 eligible.

Burr is rule 5 eligible this year.

Vaughn looks quite a bit different though (he is only 5'11"). The redeeming thing for him is that he might actually be able to play a corner outfield, especially for the Sox who seem to be much more lenient in defensive projection. My guy who I think will be available at our pick is CJ Abrams. I feel like he is very similar to Royce Lewis from a few years ago. His only weakness seems to be strength, but he has the frame to project more. He might be iffy at short right now, but give him time and he can probably clean it up and if not he would most likely easily be a plus defender in center with his speed. Witt seems more similar to Brendan Rodgers in that he has good speed that might slow down once he adds more weight, good power especially for short but a questionable hit tool that makes the whole profile volatile. I bet he still goes in the top 3 though because some team will fall in love with his upside, so he will likely be gone before the Sox pick if we keep winning at our recent pace.

I feel like he is the type of guy that wouldn't respond well to being kept down just for another year of control. It would probably hurt any chance we had of keeping him after the control as well as his mentality towards the team overall. I think Eloy might be different where he understands it more and would be more likely to agree to an early extension anyway, so I want to keep him down for the extra year.

And now he doesn't wear them. I really hope he didn't give up on them after one strikeout.

I have been saying that for a while. Vision is one of, if not the most important physical tools necessary to be a MLB hitter. On top of that, do you really want to be taking advice from Timmy who has struggled with strikeouts and making contact throughout his career? Moncada has put in a good game tonight so far and I am interested to see if he can keep it up with the glasses. Maybe if he does it will also convince TA to give them another shot and see if they can help him.

Burdi would be the easy pick for me if he stayed healthy, but after he TJS and coming back throwing more than 5mph slower so far, I want to see him performing at AAA again before I pick him, so my pick is Hamilton.

Yeah, I was thinking of Luke Shilling. Someone brought up in the AAP thread that if memory serves correctly Caranza was the guy that had the weird signing were we heard he was signed, but then he wasn't on the list the Sox released, but then he did sign later. That could have been because of this popping up on medicals and needing to renegotiate the bonus amount. If that is the case, what is interesting is that him being injured and being forced to take a lower bonus could be what allowed us to get Bryce Bush signed if Carranza's first agreed bonus was much bigger.

Didn't it happen in like his first game with us?

Not worthy of the Hall of Fame, but definitely worthy of the Hall of Niceeeeeeeeee

Yeah, but maybe their internal projections and philosophies aren't great. Some of the prospect analysts have been saying for a while now how Pit is one of the last teams telling pitchers to use more two seamers and sinkers while the rest of the league is going away from that. It was even reported that Glasnow threw a bunch more four seamers and higher in the zone in his first start with the Rays and was much more effective. I think the same thing happened with Gerrit Cole too. As for hitters, it looks like they have trouble helping guys tap into power and it looks like it might have effected Meadows as well.

Meadows and Glasnow have been really good with the Rays so far. If they can keep it up, this could be absolute robbery.

I think I saw a tweet saying he was supposed to pitch but the game got rained out. He is supposed to pitch tomorrow I believe.

Also maybe why he didn't trade Avilan and Cedeno. If we are competing next year it will be nice to have two lefty relievers in the pen that will probably be at least decent and we don't have to trade anything to get them. If we suck again at the deadline next year, then we can deal them and depending on what the market is like the difference of the extra year of control vs being a rental might not even be that big.

I hope they push him to Great Falls before the season is over. If they do there would probably be a good chance he could be in full season ball next year.

An .833 OPS in a pitchers park isn't too bad

Also going back to the Sheets power conversation, they have a current 70 on his raw while a current 40 (future 55) on his game power. It really seems like he is the type that will come back after working on his swing plane for one offseason and will be hitting tons of homers.

I think both the FG think he is a reliever and they put collins as a 1B, so I'm just assuming that in their minds a 1B with good power and OBP is better than a late inning reliever.