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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 05:55 PM) 10 errors now for Bohm, fielding percentage near .870. Again not sure what's considered good or bad for a 3b in college but he has seemingly made like 6-8 of those in last few weeks Yeah, that is not good. As we get closer and he stays in the top group we should get a better read on his defense when the same people view him many times in a row so that they see both good and bad. I almost wonder how much of it is the playing conditions or field being bad. The Fangraph guys were pretty sure he would be at least average defensively.
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In this quick article about the draft, Scott Merkin says that Hostetler was in Wisconsin scouting a game for a draft prospect earlier this week. Can anyone think of anyone else playing in Wisconsin this last week besides Kelenic? That's what my mind first jumped too, but I could be forgetting someone. Hostetler also said they are down to 8-10 names for #4 at this point. If the Wisconsin thing is Kelenic, that would mean the list probably includes him, Swaggerty, Bohm, and Mize as names we've been connected to plus Mize who everyone says has separated himself.
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4-15 Minor League Gamethread
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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 03:51 PM) Because he wasn't good at those levels until last year? It's not like it's rare for a 17 year old kid to be stuck in rookie ball/low A for awhile Yeah, but you don't put all that work into him putting it together to promote him before he is ready and destroy his confidence when he can't hit again. He is on fire right now, let's let him cool off a bit before we start talking about promoting him. -
4-15 Minor League Gamethread
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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 02:16 PM) Yeah, I believe the whole point of him DHing is the alternative to surgery, and said surgery would only occur if something goes wrong with the natural healing process They are going to try and not have the surgery but that doesn't mean they are going to let him play the field for half the year. Keston Hiura didn't play 2B for a whole year when he had this injury and he still had a scare during spring training. I highly doubt they let him play the outfield this year. Also, injury aside, they had him do two years in rookie ball and two years in low A and now they are going to promote him through advanced A after 2 months? -
4-15 Minor League Gamethread
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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 02:09 PM) If Adolfo keeps hitting (not at this unsustainable rate of course), I think we'll see him in AA as soon as he's able to play the field So next year? -
Well maybe I will freak out a little bit
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 08:51 PM) They said it was 2 to 3 MPH slow on the broadcast earlier, but that probably doesn’t explain that droppoff. If its three off, thats fine. There were a bunch of 95s, so 98 in reality. I think he also pitched yesterday or the day before, so maybe just a little tired still. I'm gonna try and not worry about it until someone who is in attendance brings it up.
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Is that TV radar gun right? Looks like Vieira is sitting in the low 90s. If he lost some velo he is not nearly as interesting of a prospect.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 08:04 PM) I will get yelled at for this, but I hope they take Bohm or Madrigal instead of Swaggerty due to this Alternatively, adding another outfielder would give us a definite area of strength to trade from rather than a gamble that a draft pick will help the areas of weakness.
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QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 07:49 PM) When Robert’s healthy, where is he going to start? A or AA? Winston Salem. He is already hanging around with the team. He will go to Arizona to get ready once he gets the cast off, but right now he is with the team.
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QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 07:42 PM) Basabe has had a HUGE start to 2018 Is he the new Ronald Acuna?!?!?!?! I mean probably not, but maybe haha
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QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 11:35 AM) He will have to hit because he apparently is terrible in the field. Yeah, hopefully with time he becomes playable at third. I wouldn't mind trying him in left like we are with Delmonico.
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Swaggerty had a pretty good day. Went 3-7 with 1BB 1K 1HBP 2HRs in two games of a doubleheader today. So should this thread just turn into the daily Bohm & Swaggerty roundup?
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2018 MiLB White Sox news and notes
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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 10:20 PM) Thanks, appreciate the explanation I'd love that...wonder if it's better to get a handful of okay prospects or go all out for a Robert Kiley McDaniel was talking about this in his chat a while back: whether its better to spend all your money on a few (or one) high upside guys or spread it out over a ton of lower level guys. There are so many guys who simply develop later and get passed over in their initial J2 or are very risky that you would be able to sign cheap, and we see so many of them in the majors, its weird no teams spread the money out. The only real downside is that you would have to operate several DSL teams and that would cost an extra few million per year. The strategy I think we should use is to go after the big guys when we can, but concentrate on the lower level guys because we don't really have the big international draw like some other teams do, so we would be working at a disadvantage going against other bigger name teams for the same guys. I would have us operate two DSL teams standard and add more if we go big on a few guys and then pick up a ton of sub $10k guys. This would make sure we are always bring in good numbers to increase our odds, and when we do go for the big guy, bringing in even more guys to make up for the lower talent level of the players besides the big one. -
2018 MiLB White Sox news and notes
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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 09:36 PM) Awesome, loved Tejada but I thought CWS can't sign any J2 guys for another year We can, just not for more than $300k. It sounds like he is an okay prospect, but nothing crazy, and bonuses are down with the new hard pools, so we should be able to sign him for $300k. -
2018 MiLB White Sox news and notes
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QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 02:26 PM) Exactly what a few of us have been talking about doing (in a much smaller scale) Well we might be able to get at least one big name, even though he may or may not be a big talent. This article mainly talking about Acuna's brother links us to Miguel Tejada Jr. for next J2: -
QUOTE (Dunt @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 03:11 PM) This Lenny Torres Jr. kid around our second pick has some pretty electric stuff I just watched some of his videos after you said that....wow the arm side movement on his fastball is nuts! One video had him striking out Turang looking and Kelenic swinging on the fastball on the outside corner. Looks like he has raw secondary pitches, but a fastball like that would be a nice get in the second. And he is basically a year younger than most of the other HS guys, so he could probably add a little more velo too.
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2018 MiLB White Sox news and notes
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 01:36 PM) Interesting. Glad to see them grabbing some guys as we near the deadline for this period. Might as well leave as little money as possible behind. From the guys I could find any info on, they seem to be older prospects. Considering several were pitchers, they are probably guys who developed late and are just being discovered now. Also, for signings under $10,000 (which many of these older ones probably are) the money doesn't count against the bonus pool, so we could be out of money and still sign those guys. -
2018 MiLB White Sox news and notes
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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 09:50 AM) IMO he's up sometime mid-May and they will DFA Miggy. They shouldn't waste his arm on AAA,let him learn at the big league level once you secure his extra year of service time. I doubt the Sox would do that. They obviously like him enough to resign him after trading him, I doubt they would just dump him after 6 weeks. I honestly think they'll wait until June or July until they can trade him for literally anything (probably nothing) and then bring Kopech up. -
UPDATE: Volstad called up, Infante reassigned to AAA
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QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 04:58 PM) Infante optioned to Triple-A @-JRFEGAN Gave him a shot. Guessing Gomez myself. We already have a full 40 man though -
QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 04:16 PM) Couldn't agree more. For me, it's Madrigal or Bohm right now. For some reason, Logan Gilbert just seems like type of guy the Sox would like. Swaggery's average is still a bit concerning I'm not as concerned about Swaggety's average because its already coming back up and he is using a new swing this year, so some streakiness is probably expected. He did well with wood on Team USA during the summer, so he has a good history.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 12:55 PM) Wow did not notice GenericUsername was continuing to update. Lotsa good stuff there. Haha, yeah, I like just putting it all in one place. I also found out that there is a limit to how many quotes you can have in a post
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 12:46 PM) Yeah, I?€™m sold now. Yeah, I'm sold on him and Swaggerty. Its weird, but I think the thing that convinced me about Swaggerty is how young he is relative to some of the other guys in this class. They also both really fit the profile from last year of more walks than strikeouts, high OBP, at least average power.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 11:47 AM) So for all the talk of pitchers, it looks like what was expected in february may happen: the depth of pitching in this draft makes it more likely teams get top bats early and pitching later. We now have word of Kelenic 1, madrigal/bohm at 3, Swaggerty/Bohm at 4. Haven't heard stuff on Giants. It was a while ago, but I remember there being a connection with the Giants and Liberatore. Don't know if thats still a thing after his velo came back down from those couple 97mph outings.
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Mike 12:41 Kelenic turns 19 this summer and is almost a year older than some of his classmates. Bohm is also a year older than Swaggerty and some others in the college JR class. How does that weigh in the evaluation of a player? Kiley McDaniel 12:41 Matter more for HS than college and more for hitters than pitchers, but matters in all four instances. Hinkie 12:43 Kiley ... According to your draft notes column last week, it sounds like the Phillies are considering Alec Bohm with the 1-3 pick. Have you heard of any other prospects the Phillies are most seriously scouting/considering for that pick ? Kiley McDaniel 12:43 Hearing Madrigal as well, Logan Gilbert has come up but that seems too rich for 3 Dave 12:43 Kiley, which is tgemHS infielder has the most upside? De Sedas, Turang, Gorman? Kiley McDaniel 12:44 Turang has a chance to be 55-60 Hit, 50 power, 60 run at SS, Gorman 50-55 Hit, 60-65 power at 3B. Both have some real concerns about reach that. De Sedas is much lower than them. Dave 12:45 Kiley, Jeremy Eierman??‚??„?s base-stealing seems to go under-reported. He has 16 SB??‚??„?s, with only 1 CS. Very similar to last year. Is he that good, or is it the product of a lesser conference? And do you see any way he enters the top 10? Kiley McDaniel 12:45 Solid average runner, solid instincts. More middle to late 1st Dave 12:46 Kiley, do you have any concerns are pitch counts and over-use with Logan Gilbert this season? Kiley McDaniel 12:46 I guess some? I try not to get too overheated about that unless its 140+ pitches, but if I'm a team I'm paying attention to it. Jo-Nathan 12:49 Jordyn Adams can't possibly turn down millions if he goes first round? Having said that I just learned his father is a coach at NC, but still that is life changing money Kiley McDaniel 12:49 His dad would be his coach and he's one of the top 100 football prospects in the country. I mean that's enticing too, even if baseball appears to be the better business decision Bravesy McBravesface 12:53 How has Jarred Kelenic looked so far this spring? Kiley McDaniel 12:53 Has only played a handful of games, but sounds like it's been solid. Had a minor illness recently. PTown 12:54 Would you be shocked if the White Sox took Bohm with the 4th pick even though they drafted Burger last year? Kiley McDaniel 12:54 Nope because that would be smart and not taking Bohm for that reason would be stupid Oregon Guy 12:54 Does Larnach project as a 1st rounder? Future starting OF or still fuzzy at this point? Guy is raking. Kiley McDaniel 12:55 Middle 1st round. Another guy I may be the high guy on right now along with Connor Scott. Kevin 12:57 Aside from the obvious #1, if you're in the top ten, where do you think the best value pick will be given the "tiers" of players forming? Kiley McDaniel 12:57 I think the top tier is 6 right now, maybe 7. That will change. Alex R. 1:00 Ethan Hankin's has fallen down the draft board a bit but is there any chance he still goes in the top 2 to either the tigers or the giants? Kiley McDaniel 1:00 He's gonna have to go insane to go top 5, still a chance to sneak in the top 10. Bravesy McBravesface 1:04 Is Joey Bart a top 10 draft prospect? Kiley McDaniel 1:04 Might be, he's close if he isn't, definitely trending up Bobby Bradley's 40-time 1:05 Best draft eligible, college arms in New England? Kiley McDaniel 1:05 Eh Tim Cate at UConn is the only one that comes to mind and he's shut down currently. Very good northeast prep year. Lineras Torres, Mike Vasil, Matt Cusick, Grant Lavigne, Charles Mack, Nick Decker. All could go top 3 rounds Outta my way, Gyorkass 1:08 How much has Jonathan India raised his stock this year? Absolutely raking for a team that he used to be what, the 4th or 5th best hitter on? Fun stat too: no GIDPs in 133 PAs! Kiley McDaniel 1:09 Chance to go back of the 1st round now, I did not see that coming: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/far-too-man...es-on-college... Finnegan 1:10 You're high on Alec Bohm, will he go high because of the hit/power combo during an era where teams feel they can fix launch angle, or will he slide due to athleticism and defensive concerns? Kiley McDaniel 1:10 There aren't athleticism/defensive concerns so no King Tut 1:11 Do you think Kelenic will stay in CF? Kiley McDaniel 1:11 Not a slam dunk but yes FH 1:11 What happened to the top two prep righties coming into the season, Ethan Hankins and Kumar Rocker. Rocker looks so good on video, i don't understand why he's not top 10...? Kiley McDaniel 1:11 He might be, he's close to that and he's been shoving all year Runelvys Gergich 1:12 Is there any chance, based on what you've heard, that the Tigers take Madrigal? Kiley McDaniel 1:12 I would say very, very low Sean 1:20 Kiley, what do you see as Kyler Murray's projection? Kiley McDaniel 1:20 Heard positive buzz, I'll see him in May. Could go top 5 rounds. PTown 1:33 Is Swaggerty a better prospect coming out than Corey Ray or Adam Haseley? Kiley McDaniel 1:33 Better than Haseley, comparable to Ray but Ray had more tools and longer track record Jack 1:33 Is Joey Bart a lock in first round? Which team would be interested in him? Kiley McDaniel 1:34 Yes, probably all of them Kyle 1:34 Any buzz on Brett Kinneman? Kiley McDaniel 1:34 4th-6th round, ok tools, performer paul 1:36 India a first rounder? Kiley McDaniel 1:36 Possibly, in the mix for late first Jimbo 1:37 Any sense of who the Braves like at 8? Kiley McDaniel 1:37 The team links are more in the top 5-6 picks where a top tier has emerged dominik 1:37 should the white sox really consider bohm? I know usually you should go BPA but the sox already have like a million corner bats in their system and really lack up the middle (middle IF, CF) talent. Kiley McDaniel 1:37 They aren't all gonna hit, trade the leftovers when you find the good ones. Pitchers will always be available in trades Zook 1:38 Is Turang an option for SD in the draft? Kiley McDaniel 1:38 Sure but I think he goes lower than that