Squirmin' for Yermin

I still like a 3 teamer involving the Mariners and Orioles. Could work for both teams.

Man it woulda been since if we didn't throw away our first rounder. All our proposals have had a 2023 first rounder as a primary piece... Emerson, Bradfield, Waldrep...

I also want to focus on bats.

Seems sooo light. I hate the idea of a Woo/Miller headliner. I'd much prefer to accept a Kjerstad and Ortiz/Norby deal.

That's not how that works.

Yeah I’d much rather stay away from Miller and Woo

3 team trade idea Mariners receive - Cease Orioles receive - Miller and Hancock white Sox receive - Kjerstad, Gonzalez, Arroyo, Baumeister

Gabriel Gonzalez isn’t? He’d be a great get. He’d be my target

You’d have to get one of Young/Gonzalez

If he can’t catch, his value is extremely diminished.

This is a terrible Bruce Levine take. If your offer isn’t great. You hold him. His value won’t decline much UNLESS there’s an injury.

Would you venture a guess what the offer is?

I imagine the likelihood of him being another bat without a position.

Same. I want to get away from what we've always done.

I’d hate to be the team that give Bellinger 150++

Yeah, all of those are easy "no's" for me

Super weird signing for the Dodgers.. We must be asking for the MOON.

He literally has a 7.6/9 K rate which is pathetic

Okay fine. I'll move Kremer up to #16 just for you <3. He's getting closer to your #1 spot!!

I expected nothing less

I just went straight off what's online to be fair.

'if any' would insinuate that there may be none better than him. I have him ranked around 17 it appears. The majority of the ones he is better than are coincidentally bad teams. It seems most of the 'better teams' have better #4 starters.

Anyone who pitches lots of innings racks up fWAR... We had that with Reynaldo Lopez yearssss back.

Because you've stated at least twice now that Kremer is the best #4 starter in the league, I decided since I'm snowed in, to waste 1 hour of my life researching this for you and also me. Rays - Baz/Bradley (I think everyone would take the Rays). Blue Jays - Kikuchi (Had a .41 better FIP than Kremer) Yankees - Stroman (Yankees easy here, obviously). Red Sox - Houck (I'll give Kremer the win here, despite Houck having a better FIP). +1 Twins - I don't think they even have one yet. (Kremer obvious win here). +1 Tigers - Faedo (Kremer easy win here) +1 Guardians - Logan Allen (I'd take Allen here pretty easily) White Sox - Soroka (Obvious Kremer win here) +1 Royals - Lynch (Kremer easy win) +1 Astros - Urquidy (I would take Urquidy here given a better track record, but I'll call it a 'push') +.5 Rangers - Jon Gray/Mahle (Rangers win here pretty easily) Mariners - Woo/Miller (Easy Mariners win) Angels - Sandova (Kremer win here) +1 Athletics - Not even wasting my time. (Kremer win) +1 Braves - Sale (Braves win) Phillies - Suarez (Pretty easy Suarez win) Marlins - Garrett (Braxton garrett breakthrough last 2 years. win marlins) Mets - Quintana (This is an easy Quintana win given the track record) Nationals - Corbin (Easy Kremer win) +1 Brewers - Miley (This is a Miley win assuming health) Cubs - Shoto Imanga (I'll give this to Kremer since Imanga is a wild card, and I'm being nice). +1 Reds - Lively (Kremer win) +1 Pirates - Oviedo (Oviedo had a slightly better FIP, I'm going 'push' here) +.5 Cardinals - Gibson (former Oriole, easy win for Gibson) Dodgers - Not wasting my time (They have 10 better probably lol. Kremer loss) Diamonbacks - Pfaadt (Give me Pfaadt all day) Padres - Waldron (Kremer win) +1 Giants - Ray (Ray easy) Rockies - Hudson (Kremer easy) +1 So by the count of this, I personally have Kremer better than 13 other #4 (per depth charts currently). This ranks him #17, which is indeed close to #1, like you insinuated, if you remove the 7. I am mad you made me do this. But you made me.

Dean Kremer had a 4.51 FIP last year. Not sure if you knew that.