SCCWS Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Why wouldn't they send him back to AAA and let him start there then bring him up in Sept and let him get a few starts. Shields and Gonzo could be tradeable pieces in the offseason so the Sox may be better leaving them iin the rotation and hope they look at least average over the next 4-6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 We are stuck with Shields, nobody is going to want to deal for him this offseason. 2017 rotation: Sale Quintana Shields Rodon Fulmer We better hope Shields and Rodon are good next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 08:02 AM) We are stuck with Shields, nobody is going to want to deal for him this offseason. 2017 rotation: Sale Quintana Shields Rodon Fulmer We better hope Shields and Rodon are good next year If I'm Hahn, I put Shields on waivers. And your 2017 rotation would indicate the Sox are going with perennial failure mode. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 7, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) Hahn on Fulmer's long term path as a starter or reliver.... "We'll figure that out as we go along..." http://mlb.com/r/article?ymd=20160807&...ws&c_id=cws I'm afraid they're f***ing this kid up. Rebuilds are fun when they're filled with surprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 08:06 AM) If I'm Hahn, I put Shields on waivers. And your 2017 rotation would indicate the Sox are going with perennial failure mode. No thanks. Every single major league baseball player is going to be put on waivers at some point this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 07:27 AM) Why wouldn't they send him back to AAA and let him start there then bring him up in Sept and let him get a few starts. Shields and Gonzo could be tradeable pieces in the offseason so the Sox may be better leaving them iin the rotation and hope they look at least average over the next 4-6 weeks. Part of the reason he isn't starting is that they need to limit his innings this year. So will he learn more pitching in AAA or the MLB while pitching in relief? The answer is, that's why they get paid what they do. We'll see if they are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 08:02 AM) We are stuck with Shields, nobody is going to want to deal for him this offseason. 2017 rotation: Sale Quintana Shields Rodon Fulmer We better hope Shields and Rodon are good next year We still have one year of control on Miguel Gonzalez yet. I bet they don't throw Fulmer into the rotation from the get go. Barring a trade our opening day rotation will be Sale, Q, Rodon, Shields and Gonzalez. That's a pretty dang good rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Deadpool @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 08:06 AM) If I'm Hahn, I put Shields on waivers. And your 2017 rotation would indicate the Sox are going with perennial failure mode. No thanks. I assure you that Shields has been on (or is on) waivers, and has likely cleared. The $ the Pads sent with him wouldn't be netted off his contract if someone claimed him, meaning no one will. However, I don't think Shields is untradable. His last two starts have sucked, but I think the Sox can definitely move him this month or offseason without eating additional cash - don't know that they'll get much. Edited August 9, 2016 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 12:59 PM) but I think the Sox can definitely move him this month or offseason without eating additional cash I can't see how any reasonable person can come to that conclusion after reading this: http://www.southsidesox.com/2016/8/8/12401...re-here-to-stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'd be fine keeping Gonzalez and having Fulmer start next season in AAA. He really needs to work on some things before he's ready for a full season of starting in the big leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 12:25 PM) Part of the reason he isn't starting is that they need to limit his innings this year. So will he learn more pitching in AAA or the MLB while pitching in relief? The answer is, that's why they get paid what they do. We'll see if they are right. Makes sense on limiting the innings and getting his feet wet w major league hitters. But it might be tough to then try and make him a ML starter in 2017. He may need some portion of next year in AAA as a starter. If he is ticketed for the bullpen next year, then keeping him in the present role makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 9, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) We still have one year of control on Miguel Gonzalez yet. I bet they don't throw Fulmer into the rotation from the get go. Barring a trade our opening day rotation will be Sale, Q, Rodon, Shields and Gonzalez. That's a pretty dang good rotation. That is a great rotation. If we had them this season, we would be playoff bound......................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone7 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) What's best for a kid in this situation? I've always been curious what the opinions are of better baseball minds than mine. On one hand, the common theory is to let a guy get seasoning and work things out in the minors. It doesn't effect your big league club, less pressure perceivably on the prospect, etc. One the other hand, we supposedly have this great pitching guru in Cooper. So wouldn't it be more beneficial for the organization, and the player, to have him working with Coop as much as possible? I'd argue on talent alone he could be in our bullpen (even if it doesn't appear so right now). We know we aren't competing next year regardless of a fire sale or not. So what is better for your organization in these kinds of situations? Especially, when it comes to your top pitching prospect/top prospect in general? Edited August 9, 2016 by HeGone7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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