flavum Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The Sox just finished 17 of 20 away from the Cell. They went 7-13. Home 29-26 Road 28-37 26 left at home (I'll say 14-12) 16 left on the road (6-10) 27 games left in the division. (12-15) 15 outside the division (8-7) 77-85, 11th or 12th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 A ten game losing streak would be great right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 04:09 AM) A ten game losing streak would be great right now I think we'll have a huge losing streak before it's over. I'd say something like a 2-10 run. My guess is we win seven games in September. Where will that put the Sox in the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 11:39 PM) I think we'll have a huge losing streak before it's over. I'd say something like a 2-10 run. My guess is we win seven games in September. Where will that put the Sox in the draft? I am expecting a terrible September as well because there are no impact players that they can call up. And a lot of the young players that have been called up (with the exception of Anderson) have not been performing well. They play a lot of divisional games during the final stretch and hopefully that continues to be a thorn in their side, plus teams like the Royals and Rockies are doing everything they can to get into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 11:39 PM) I think we'll have a huge losing streak before it's over. I'd say something like a 2-10 run. My guess is we win seven games in September. Where will that put the Sox in the draft? 7th. It will put the Sox at the 7th pick in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) 7th. It will put the Sox at the 7th pick in the draft. Unfortunately that's the best thing that can come from this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I think talent evaluation is as important and sometimes even more important than Draft position. We have had some first round dogs, and I hate to call Fulmer one, but he might become another bust. You go into full tank mode to get a player like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 21, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) I think talent evaluation is as important and sometimes even more important than Draft position. We have had some first round dogs, and I hate to call Fulmer one, but he might become another bust. You go into full tank mode to get a player like that? For the 15 billionth time - The jury is very much still out on Fulmer. Absolutely NO reason to give up on him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Finally back in to the loss column, sheesh. With the Sox loss tonight, they still maintain the #12 pick. 1 GB of Colorado for 11th 4 GB of Philly for 10th 15 GB of the Braves for 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 21, 2016 -> 09:41 PM) I think talent evaluation is as important and sometimes even more important than Draft position. We have had some first round dogs, and I hate to call Fulmer one, but he might become another bust. You go into full tank mode to get a player like that? I think we are spoiled by the likes of Sale and Rodon. Most guys spend time in the minors. Talent evaluation is quite weak and people want to blow it up. Sometimes luck can play a part. The Sox don't have that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 21, 2016 -> 09:41 PM) I think talent evaluation is as important and sometimes even more important than Draft position. We have had some first round dogs, and I hate to call Fulmer one, but he might become another bust. You go into full tank mode to get a player like that? That's true. He might become another bust. He also might become a mediocre Major League pitcher. Better yet, he might become a star Major League pitcher, maybe even an ace. Anything is possible at this point. He just hasn't been around long enough for any of us to know what the outcome will be. So give him some time before you start setting up his MLB tombstone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 With tonight's loss, we still have the 12th pick. 0.5 GB of COL for 11th pick. 4 GB of PHI for 10th pick. 14 GB of ATL/MIN for 1st pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 Tonight's loss moved us up to the 11th pick! Yay! 4 GB of PHI for 10th pick. 14 GB of MIN for 1st pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Gonna be tough to get better than 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 With today's loss, we still have the 11th pick. 3.5 GB of Philly for 10th pick. 13 GB of Minnesota for 1st pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 12:54 AM) With today's loss, we still have the 11th pick. 3.5 GB of Philly for 10th pick. 13 GB of Minnesota for 1st pick. I think 11 will be best we will do. Unless we lose 2 to the Phillies next time we face them. Edited September 2, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 21, 2016 -> 09:41 PM) I think talent evaluation is as important and sometimes even more important than Draft position. We have had some first round dogs, and I hate to call Fulmer one, but he might become another bust. You go into full tank mode to get a player like that? This FO can't properly evaluate even veteran talent. I think they, at least Hahn, is okay with the young guys. But he/they want veterans and the evaluation of vets is hideous. Look at Hahn trading for Shields. Look at the Peavy trade: Williams insisted on Avi; Hahn and his Scouts found the A ball players. The A ball guys were the better part of the trade. Edited September 2, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 21, 2016 -> 09:41 PM) I think talent evaluation is as important and sometimes even more important than Draft position. We have had some first round dogs, and I hate to call Fulmer one, but he might become another bust. You go into full tank mode to get a player like that? While certainly true, you still have more pool money and there is a difference between picking 11 or 10th in the current system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 06:52 AM) This FO can't properly evaluate even veteran talent. I think they, at least Hahn, is okay with the young guys. But he/they want veterans and the evaluation of vets is hideous. Look at Hahn trading for Shields. Look at the Peavy trade: Williams insisted on Avi; Hahn and his Scouts found the A ball players. The A ball guys were the better part of the trade. So Hahn was selling him as a possible or future CFer when he didn't believe in him at all? And Hahn wanted Iglesias, KW wanted Avi? Source? And what scouts did Hahn bring in that weren't there already? KW brought in Paddy, shouldn't he have been the one who targeted Montas...or assigned a scout because he already knew Montas when he was with Toronto competing with Boston for Latin American talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 08:08 AM) So Hahn was selling him as a possible or future CFer when he didn't believe in him at all? And Hahn wanted Iglesias, KW wanted Avi? Source? And what scouts did Hahn bring in that weren't there already? KW brought in Paddy, shouldn't he have been the one who targeted Montas...or assigned a scout because he already knew Montas when he was with Toronto competing with Boston for Latin American talent? raBBIt has stated multiple times that Hahn actually wanted Middlebrooks as the headliner which is just as bad. KW wanted Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 And who supposedly scouted Eaton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) raBBIt has stated multiple times that Hahn actually wanted Middlebrooks as the headliner which is just as bad. KW wanted Garcia. I mean technically, Hahn hired Paddy and Hostetler for their current positions. Were they recommended by KW? Possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 08:21 AM) I mean technically, Hahn hired Paddy and Hostetler for their current positions. Were they recommended by KW? Possibly http://www.southsidesox.com/minors/2013/2/...s-back-on-track KW brought Paddy on board before the 2012 season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Still 4 GB of the Phillies for the #10 spot. The 23-10 start to the season will really end up hurting the Sox draft position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 Sox still have 11th pick. 4.5 GB of Philly for 10th pick. 13.5 GB of MIN for 1st pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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