NCsoxfan Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:42 PM) Well duh lol. I still want their top prospects. Of course, I just think too many (mostly Boston fans) think these are sure fire prospects. There's always some risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) WTF? Patc just said we wouldn't be able to win for 5-7 years if we don't keep one of Sale or Quintana because we wouldn't have an ace. I'm saying that one specific need can be filled over the next several seasons by blowing it up. That doesn't change the fact we can't fill numerous needs over the next two or three years before Sale leaves us via free agency if we hold onto our pitching assets. Not sure what you're getting at here... The farm system is going to produce no matter what happens to Chris Sale. It doesn't make sense to assume it will if Sale is dealt, but there is nothing to come from the system if we keep Sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) It's just one game but today Moncada & Benintendi combined for 0-9. Moncada was 0-5 with 5K's. Faced a 29y old journey man with a 4.01 lifetime era in the minors. One game but nothing is guaranteed! That really is a lot of worthless information, but I don't really care if the haul they received was Moncada + 3 others and Moncada busts...as long as 2 or 3 of the others are good players in 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) That really is a lot of worthless information, but I don't really care if the haul they received was Moncada + 3 others and Moncada busts...as long as 2 or 3 of the others are good players in 2-3 years. Looking back through recent history, how often is the return that high in retrospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Um.... so what happens in 3 years when they're still nowhere near a world series and won't give either $25+ million a year? No offense dude but that sounds like Kenny Williams. Yes, because KW is known for trading his top pitchers. The hardest commodity to find are top pitchers. Why trade all of them away when you can trade one, get back talent and make a run in two years? i don't think you understand how difficult it will be to find pitchers like Sale and Quintana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) Of course he'll say that. I'm sure he'll try but the Sox will get him. They dont HAVE to move either SPs. It's all a game of cat 'n mouse and smoke 'n mirrors game. I agree. That is why he won't be traded there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) Why can't we draft, trade, or sign one eventually? If we have top 5 picks for a few years, we'll have a great chance at landing one. And if you deal Sale and Quintana, you're probably targeting a potential TOR starter in one of the deals. Plus we have Rodon and Alec Hansen (wild card) with ace potential already in the system. I don't think there is a great chance. These guys don't come along often. Even if you draft one, he's 4-5 years away minimum. All prospects have potential, Sale and Quintana are there. Hansen is 4 years away even if he makes it, which is far from a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) I agree. That is why he won't be traded there. I think the sox get Moncada because Quintana or Sale aren't rentals. The value is there to give him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) I think the sox get Moncada because Quintana or Sale aren't rentals. The value is there to give him up. It will be interesting to see if dombrowski folds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) It will be interesting to see if dombrowski folds. I don't think he will. Nor should he. Has a chance in a weaker AL to put the sox up on top with adding Sale/Q and Robertson. I think they still get Moncada+ for Quintan and Robertson. Edit: fixed sorry busy working typo Edited July 24, 2016 by SouthSideSale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:34 PM) I don't think he will. Nor should he. Has a chance in a weaker AL to put the sox up on top with adding Sale/Q and Robertson. I think they still get Robertsom as well in the package. Your statements are pretty contradictory, as they read currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:40 PM) Your statements are pretty contradictory, as they read currently. It wasn't just me then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) Your statements are pretty contradictory, as they read currently. Fixed it lol. Sorry typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) Fixed it lol. Sorry typo You mean "you think he will fold." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 07:00 PM) You mean "you think he will fold." Yeah that's what I think he meant, but I still don't understand his post even with the edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:34 PM) I don't think he will. Nor should he. Has a chance in a weaker AL to put the sox up on top with adding Sale/Q and Robertson. I think they still get Moncada+ for Quintan and Robertson. Edit: fixed sorry busy working typo I have no idea what you're trying to say lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) I have no idea what you're trying to say lol. I think SouthSideSale is using the term "fold" as folding one's cards and walking away from the table, whereas everyone else is using "fold" as meaning "giving in" to Sox demands. Edited July 25, 2016 by South Side Fireworks Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:13 PM) I think SouthSideSale is using the term "fold" as folding one's cards and walking away from the table whereas everyone else is using "fold" as meaning "giving in." Ya that's what I thought he meant. Fold as in its a poker game right now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) I have no idea what you're trying to say lol. Was thinking about folding as in poker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) @JoelSherman1 #Yankees would be stockpiling SS behind Didi: Torres!and Mateo elite prospects but also Wade, Holder, Park. Gives them ammo (cont) To target SP in offseason or even to consider now if wanted to make a run at someone like Chris Sale. Edit: forgot to add first part. Sorry rough day for me lol. Edited July 25, 2016 by SouthSideSale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:36 PM) @JoelSherman1 To target SP in offseason or even to consider now if wanted to make a run at someone like Chris Sale. I don't get what this is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) I don't get what this is saying. There was another tweet saying they're stockpiling SS to make a run at SP in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) There was another tweet saying they're stockpiling SS to make a run at SP in the offseason. Who is stockpiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:41 PM) Who is stockpiling? Yankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) Yankees Gotcha thanks. The lone tweet was very vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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