fathom Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Levine suggesting Baez and Soler for Sale. I hate the Cubs media http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/07/22/lev..._medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) Levine suggesting Baez and Soler for Sale. I hate the Cubs media http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/07/22/lev..._medium=twitter Sounds as bad as most of their fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Sorry Cubbies. It starts with Bryant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:01 PM) Overpay? I thought they were too cheap. I get so confused and whiplash as well reading posts. I have never called the White Sox cheap. The reason the White Sox could survive a rebuild is when they find a good player, management can do what's necessary to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:17 PM) Sorry Cubbies. It starts with Bryant. I would take Schwarber, Contreras, and Baez. I don't necessarily need Bryant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) I would take Schwarber, Contreras, and Baez. I don't necessarily need Bryant. If sale is traded a quality pitcher must be involved in any deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:17 PM) Sorry Cubbies. It starts with Bryant. Come on man, Bryant is arguably a more valuable asset than Sale. I really hope the Sox's demands aren't that outrageous or we're going to miss out on a huge opportunity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:31 PM) Come on man, Bryant is arguably a more valuable asset than Sale. I really hope the Sox's demands aren't that outrageous or we're going to miss out on a huge opportunity here. The Sox demands better be pretty damn outrageous though.. Sale is one of the best pitchers in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:31 PM) Come on man, Bryant is arguably a more valuable asset than Sale. I really hope the Sox's demands aren't that outrageous or we're going to miss out on a huge opportunity here. Bryant is almost certainly a more valuable asset than Sale. A top five player in the game. 4th in WAR. He's not a part of a Sale trade. QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:33 PM) The Sox demands better be pretty damn outrageous though.. Sale is one of the best pitchers in the game. Bryant is arguably a better player than Chris Sale is a pitcher. Sale is a top four pitcher. Bryant is a top five player Edited July 23, 2016 by Deadpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) I would take Schwarber, Contreras, and Baez. I don't necessarily need Bryant. I'd need another high-end prospect like Torres or Jimenez plus a B spect or two. Unfortunately, any deal with the Cubs is a pipe dream as our front office helping them win a World Series would be seen as an betrayal by a large chunk of our fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) Bryant is almost certainly a more valuable asset than Sale. A top five player in the game. 4th in WAR. He's not a part of a Sale trade. Bryant is arguably a better player than Chris Sale is a pitcher. Sale is a top four pitcher. Bryant is a top five player Oh I agree the Sox won't get Bryant.. but their demands still need to be damn high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) I'd need another high-end prospect like Torres or Jimenez plus a B spect or two. Unfortunately, any deal with the Cubs is a pipe dream as our front office helping them win a World Series would be seen as an betrayal by a large chunk of our fanbase. Our front office doesn't give a f*** about the Cubs. Our fanbase shouldn't care, either. And if there's one thing we have all learned, the baseball operations group cares little what "the fanbase" thinks. They know when the team in the black pinstripes wins, the seats get filled. It's not much harder than that. Edited July 23, 2016 by Deadpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 02:37 AM) Our front office doesn't give a f*** about the Cubs. Our fanbase shouldn't care, either. That is wrong, Hahn even admitted as much during the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) Our front office doesn't give a f*** about the Cubs. Our fanbase shouldn't care, either. And if there's one thing we have all learned, the baseball operations group cares little what "the fanbase" thinks. They know when the team in the black pinstripes wins, the seats get filled. It's not much harder than that. Well, I will 100% disagree with you here. Do you remember how long it took a chunk of our fanbase to get over the White Flag trade? You think most Sox fans would be cool with watching Sale help the Cubs win their first World Series in a 100+ years? Sure, some of the more sophisticated fans on this board would be ok with it, but Bob from Bridgeport ain't going to be happy and may never be able to forgive this ownership group. As much as it theoretically shouldn't matter, it would be the equivalent of the Red Sox selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees for a piano. And don't doubt for a second that Reinsdorf, Hahn, & KW aren't aware of this. That's not to say they wouldn't trade with the Cubs, but they definitely won't be trading the face of the franchise to them in one of the most important deals in team history. Edited July 23, 2016 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) Our front office doesn't give a f*** about the Cubs. Our fanbase shouldn't care, either. And if there's one thing we have all learned, the baseball operations group cares little what "the fanbase" thinks. They know when the team in the black pinstripes wins, the seats get filled. It's not much harder than that. LOL, yeah right. That is 100% wrong. I believe Hahn even admitted as such this past offseason. Even JR said he hopes/wouldn't mind the Cubs winning the World Series...when he is dead. Edited July 23, 2016 by soxfan85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) Levine suggesting Baez and Soler for Sale. I hate the Cubs media http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/07/22/lev..._medium=twitter LOL, give me a freakin' break. That guy must be going completely senile to suggest something as asinine as that. What a loser living in a completely homer-based dream world. Now, maybe throw in a bag of balls and we got ourselves a "fair" deal. If anything, I hope Sale is traded to a team that plays the Cubs in the playoffs so he can shut them down and shut their damn big mouths. Edited July 23, 2016 by soxfan85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) Well, I will 100% disagree with you here. Do you remember how long it took a chunk of our fanbase to get over the White Flag trade? You think most Sox fans would be cool with watching Sale help the Cubs win their first World Series in a 100+ years? Sure, some of the more sophisticated fans on this board would be ok with it, but Bob from Bridgeport ain't going to be happy and may never be able to forgive this ownership group. As much as it theoretically shouldn't matter, it would be the equivalent of the Red Sox selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees for a piano. And don't doubt for a second that Reinsdorf, Hahn, & KW aren't aware of this. That's not to say they wouldn't trade with the Cubs, but they definitely won't be trading the face of the franchise to them in one of the most important deals in team history. Bob from Bridgeport gave up on the White Sox two seasons ago. no one is going and no one is watching. Stop worrying about Bob from Bridgeport. Bob from Bridgeport is going to watch if the White Sox win. that's it. Who gives a f*** about most "Sox fans"? They're already watching the Bears. They care about the bottom line, and that is winning. This team isn't winning. And as far as Hahn goes, stop living in fantasy land. The Sox don't want the Cubs to win the World Series because that means the White Sox can't win the world series. That's all. Hahn's business is to make the White Sox better, whatever the cost. If he cares about the Cubs, he should be fired. Edited July 23, 2016 by Deadpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Lmao at Baez and Soler. Any Sale deal with the Cubs starts with Bryant or Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 10:22 PM) Lmao at Baez and Soler. Any Sale deal with the Cubs starts with Bryant or Russell. Again, Schwarber is likely a good piece. Bryant and Russell are nearly untouchable. This is a stupid discussion. The Cubs and White Sox couldn't agree on the value of Chris Sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 10:22 PM) Lmao at Baez and Soler. Any Sale deal with the Cubs starts with Bryant or Russell. Eh, I'd say Bryant. Russell is one of the most overrated players in baseball IMO, and he hasn't done anything to convince me that he'll live up to his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 04:24 AM) Eh, I'd say Bryant. Russell is one of the most overrated players in baseball IMO, and he hasn't done anything to convince me that he'll live up to his potential Schwarber, Contreras, Happ and Cease would be enough for Sale IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 10:24 PM) Eh, I'd say Bryant. Russell is one of the most overrated players in baseball IMO, and he hasn't done anything to convince me that he'll live up to his potential He's 22 and a 2 WAR player through half a season. Leave the stupid out of this discussion, please. It's not sexy, but Russell is off to a ridiculous start. And Bryant is more valuable than Sale, period. Edited July 23, 2016 by Deadpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 03:29 AM) He's 22 and a 2 WAR player through half a season. Leave the stupid out of this discussion, please. It's not sexy, but Russell is off to a ridiculous start. He's the type of hitter though I'm not sure the Sox would help make adjustments during the early part of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 10:31 PM) He's the type of hitter though I'm not sure the Sox would help make adjustments during the early part of his career. A White Sox org flaw, not a Russell one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 11:24 PM) Again, Schwarber is likely a good piece. Bryant and Russell are nearly untouchable. This is a stupid discussion. The Cubs and White Sox couldn't agree on the value of Chris Sale. Injured DH missing his sophomore season after a downward trend to his rookie year for a HOF pitcher? Yeah, starts with one of the untouchables. You don't get an untouchable star like Sale. for an injured DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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