maxjusttyped Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) Q+Robertson to Red Sox Sale to Dodgers Sell off Melky, Frazier, Jones, Jennings, Duke, Shields and Gonzalez for best you can get. Listen on Abreu and Eaton, but need fair value. Then pray. I wish the Sox had an owner who would actually sign off on something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 A Rangers fan mentioned taking Prince's contract if they included Mazara...hell no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) So Cameron says a Benintendi/Devers/1 lower level guy (or Moncada/Kopech instead for the first two), Urias/Verdugo (or Bellinger instead of Verdugo)/2 lower level guys or Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/1 lower level guy should be enough for the Sox to want to move Sale. If Sale was traded for any of those packages, would anyone here be happy with those trades? No. Those are the types of trades you can get when Sale has 1.5 years of control, not 3.5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) So Cameron says a Benintendi/Devers/1 lower level guy (or Moncada/Kopech instead for the first two), Urias/Verdugo (or Bellinger instead of Verdugo)/2 lower level guys or Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/1 lower level guy should be enough for the Sox to want to move Sale. If Sale was traded for any of those packages, would anyone here be happy with those trades? Those might be "fair" trades, but life isn't fair and those teams NEED Sale in a bad way. The Sox do not need to trade him. The sox need to violate some GM in a major way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) David Robertson, if traded, could get a decent haul on his own. If packaged with Sale or Q, Sox could become a top 10 farm system overnight. https://twitter.com/RobHart1980/status/759086422188064769 I largely prefer not packaging, especially in the case of Sale. I think we actually lose out in a "package" deal. On the flip side, I'd be open to it with Q and Robertson for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) Those might be "fair" trades, but life isn't fair and those teams NEED Sale in a bad way. The Sox do not need to trade him. The sox need to violate some GM in a major way. I hope they're able to do that by having 2-4 teams upping the ante, and it may take the last 15 minutes leading up to 3pm on Monday. But when it comes down to it, I'd be happy with a great deal that minor league experts/baseball people find fair too. That's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) So Cameron says a Benintendi/Devers/1 lower level guy (or Moncada/Kopech instead for the first two), Urias/Verdugo (or Bellinger instead of Verdugo)/2 lower level guys or Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/1 lower level guy should be enough for the Sox to want to move Sale. If Sale was traded for any of those packages, would anyone here be happy with those trades? I think they are all crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Nothing really interesting in Levine's latest article except for this "The White Sox have been busy working the phones, with four or five possible deals that could come to fruition." http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/07/29/lev...trade-deadline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I could handle not including benintendi if it meant devers/erod being included. That they can get away with a hamels package is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Yeah, Q and Sale's contracts, age, results and the over inflated markets mean that Sale should get the biggest haul ever with Quintana not far behind if packaged with Robertson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) So Cameron says a Benintendi/Devers/1 lower level guy (or Moncada/Kopech instead for the first two), Urias/Verdugo (or Bellinger instead of Verdugo)/2 lower level guys or Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/1 lower level guy should be enough for the Sox to want to move Sale. If Sale was traded for any of those packages, would anyone here be happy with those trades? Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) Nothing really interesting in Levine's latest article except for this "The White Sox have been busy working the phones, with four or five possible deals that could come to fruition." http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/07/29/lev...trade-deadline/ Thats until they sweep the twins and go all in lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) Not nearly as smart as us message board posters. Not. Even. Close. You might be right, actually, since the Williams/Hahn 1-2 management combo has only gotten the team to the postseason twice in their 15 years of running things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
restinpiss Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) if we trade Sale.. Hopefully we get at least 3 out of the below 6, along with Mazara who I consider a MUST. If we can get 4 prospect of this caliber I am fine with it. Gallo Brinson Ortiz Tate Mendez Profar Odor Odor!!! Odor is by far the best player on the list, including Mazara. He's not going anywhere with Mazara and 3 other names. If they offered him and Mazara the Sox need hit accept immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:52 PM) Thats until they sweep the twins and go all in lol .600-ball the rest of the season gives them 86 wins. I hope they're smarter than that. Then again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) .600-ball the rest of the season gives them 86 wins. I hope they're smarter than that. Then again... They tried to add last year when it was over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (restinpiss @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) Odor!!! Odor is by far the best player on the list, including Mazara. Thank you for your opinion Mrs. Odor. We will put it under consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:57 PM) They tried to add last year when it was over Reinsdorf probably still references 1983 when it comes to going for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) I largely prefer not packaging, especially in the case of Sale. I think we actually lose out in a "package" deal. On the flip side, I'd be open to it with Q and Robertson for example. I'm fine packaging if it means Moncada and Benitendi together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) I'm fine packaging if it means Moncada and Benitendi together. +1 If we end up with two top ten prospects in all of baseball out of 1 of our major pitchers and a bullpen piece I'll be thrilled. If we had two top ten prospects at once, if you asked us who we could get if we packaged them there wouldn't be a single player in baseball we wouldn't think we could get. Possibly Trout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 It just go to show how far behind the Sox are when the BoSox are in playoff contention and they have two top ten prospects in all of baseball that havent even helped them yet....Demoralizing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
restinpiss Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:57 PM) Thank you for your opinion Mrs. Odor. We will put it under consideration. \ No problem. That is the reason his name hasn't been mentioned in this trade anywhere but here, let alone as a throw in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) So Cameron says a Benintendi/Devers/1 lower level guy (or Moncada/Kopech instead for the first two), Urias/Verdugo (or Bellinger instead of Verdugo)/2 lower level guys or Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/1 lower level guy should be enough for the Sox to want to move Sale. If Sale was traded for any of those packages, would anyone here be happy with those trades? I would be ok with that Dodgers trade. Urias is a phenom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) I'm fine packaging if it means Moncada and Benitendi together. If I am Hahn, I am not trading Sale without getting those two plus some. Case closed and if it was the off-season I'd want one of Betts / Bradley plus one of Moncada / Benitendi and their best pitching prospect. Now some of you may say I am delusional, but that is what it would take if I were the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) If I am Hahn, I am not trading Sale without getting those two plus some. Case closed and if it was the off-season I'd want one of Betts / Bradley plus one of Moncada / Benitendi and their best pitching prospect. Now some of you may say I am delusional, but that is what it would take if I were the GM. I agree, but even in offseason I don't think we are getting betts. But no, sad as I will be that even the best / pitcher friendly contract in baseball is being traded and we can't get them, I am not trading to boston unless we get both plus wildcard prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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