Chicago White Sox Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:58 PM) We don't know what they were offered guys. Get off the ledge. Teams are making deals and left and right and we're supposed to think the only halfway decent offer we got for any of our guys was a 4th OF for Duke? I think it's pretty easy to say they f***ed up on dealing their secondary pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:58 PM) We don't know what they were offered guys. Get off the ledge. There were plenty of deals to be made outside of Sale and Q, the only one they pulled off was Duke for a career 4th OF. Even that deal tells you that they are not committed to building a team, they are delusional thinking that they can keep throwing crap at the roster and it will put them into contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Typical Sox Trade deadline of doing nothing and total nonsense in 2016 with this roster. We will hear how we really tried bulls*** we hear every f'n year! Edited August 1, 2016 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) We don't know what they were offered guys. Get off the ledge. It's not that the Sox didn't trade sale or q. It's the fact that they didn't trade Frazier, Melky, Shields, Gonzo etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox802 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Teams are making deals and left and right and we're supposed to think the only halfway decent offer we got for any of our guys was a 4th OF for Duke? I think it's pretty easy to say they f***ed up on dealing their secondary pieces. Yep. Other teams had no problem making deals. I really think that the FO really just does not which direction to head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 epic fail you losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) The Sox f***ed up another opportunity. It's getting real hard to support this team. You are spot on. I am not done with this team becasue we did not trade Sale or Q. I am done with this garbage because they did not move one of Robertson, Shields, Gonzo, Frazier or Melky in a sellers market like this. Just so sickening and frustrating and unacceptable. Look at the Yankees, Brewers etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 New FO please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:00 PM) Typical Sox deadline of doing nothing and total nonsense in 2106 with this roster. That will probably be the case. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I wish Cashman was our GM. KW/Hahn are too clueless to read the tea leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) This is f***ing ridiculous. Absolutely unacceptable to not move any of Robertson, Shields, Gonzalez, Melky, & Frazier. Get ready for a few off season tweaks and taking one more run at it in 2017. If they actually found another big bat somewhere, and the old Abreu came back, maybe it works, but otherwise we'll be in this exact same spot a year from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Has anyone confirmed yet that we made no deals? I know some deals are announced late. And what's this bonus time stuff flavum was talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) Get ready for a few off season tweaks and taking one more run at it in 2017. If they actually found another big bat somewhere, and the old Abreu came back, maybe it works, but otherwise we'll be in this exact same spot a year from now. Well, at least we'll have a new manager, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (chisox802 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) Yep. Other teams had no problem making deals. I really think that the FO really just does not which direction to head. Unfortunately, I think the biggest struggle with the front office is the fact that it might not be in a very good position to succeed, because it is somewhat handicaped by ownership expectations, which kind of limit the willingness to "rebuild". As a result, I feel as if they are mired in the, well if you can do X and Y perfectly, I give you approval to do it, but if not, we should do X, but I can't give you full resources from a FA perspective. I might be wrong but It started this most recent off-season where they "half-assed" it, yet again (for a lack of a better term). Just unwilling to go all the way in and it left them in that middle zone. While none of the moves debilitated the franchise, the lack of true foreceful direction, prevents you from making the best longer term decisions for the health of the franchise (whether it is giving that little extra in cash to go for it or saying, yes, lets make a deal and I'm okay with a new timeframe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 at least trade the secondary pieces - what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) They also aren't offering Moncada, and might not even be offering Benintendi. This is a team that traded its top pitching prospect for Drew Pomeranz, are we really supposed to believe its the Red Sox that are the ones holding these talks up? If we could place bets and then after the trade deadline the GMs came out and said heres what we offered, heres why we said no I would put all my money on the White Sox trying to strong arm Boston into giving up way more than whats necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yankees dealt Nova too. Cashman straight up murdered our front office this deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:02 PM) Has anyone confirmed yet that we made no deals? I know some deals are announced late. And what's this bonus time stuff flavum was talking about? Haven't seen it said as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:02 PM) Has anyone confirmed yet that we made no deals? I know some deals are announced late. And what's this bonus time stuff flavum was talking about? Just if a last minute trade got through and has yet to be announced. Gammons says to wait a half hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (TRU @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) This is a team that traded its top pitching prospect for Drew Pomeranz, are we really supposed to believe its the Red Sox that are the ones holding these talks up? If we could place bets and then after the trade deadline the GMs came out and said heres what we offered, heres why we said no I would put all my money on the White Sox trying to strong arm Boston into giving up way more than whats necessary. Where are you seeing that they offered Moncada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:04 PM) Just if a last minute trade got through and has yet to be announced. Gammons says to wait a half hour. Usually bigger name, last minute deals, come through in the first 10 to 15 minutes. Sometimes smaller names can slide a little later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Looking forward to having this same conversation about Sale and Q again next Late July! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) You are spot on. I am not done with this team becasue we did not trade Sale or Q. I am done with this garbage because they did not move one of Robertson, Shields, Gonzo, Frazier or Melky in a sellers market like this. Just so sickening and frustrating and unacceptable. Look at the Yankees, Brewers etc The Yankees probably just went from a middle of the road farm system to a top 2 or three system by trading two rentals and a closer making $9M a year for two more seasons. I can't blame Hahn, this type of ineptitude pre-dates his tenure changes are needed at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) Get ready for a few off season tweaks and taking one more run at it in 2017. If they actually found another big bat somewhere, and the old Abreu came back, maybe it works, but otherwise we'll be in this exact same spot a year from now. Castro and Gomez. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Matt Moore dealt, but Shields & Gonzalez remain at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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