harkness99 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Wow has this guy turned it around. Someone figured something out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 dropped his ERA from 31 to 5.17..... Keep that trend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I truly know the reason for his failures and new found form. One meme will never be posted here ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Dude is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Someone on twitter said it's all smoke and mirrors, his FIP is high and so is his BABIP. Latos part deux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 0-31 with RISP over the past few games.. things will even out. But as I said when he was struggling - (and when the Sox started off hot then got cold) everything regresses to the mean. He's not as bad as he was then, and not as good as his ERA is suggesting now. Just like the Sox, not as good as they were in April and May and not as bad as they were in June. Shields will give you a 4-4.20ERA and 190-210IP for $9mm a year. Not bad. Sox are an 83-85 win team as currently constructed. Untouched for the rest of the year? They will probably end in that range. Mired in Mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) Someone on twitter said it's all smoke and mirrors, his FIP is high and so is his BABIP. Latos part deux? Sort of seems like it. His K/IP is still terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Or he had a bad stretch followed by a good stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) Someone on twitter said it's all smoke and mirrors, his FIP is high and so is his BABIP. Latos part deux? He's obviously pitching better than he really is, and it really stands out due to his horrendous first three starts with the Sox. But, I would imagine he'll level out as a guy who will give you a 4-ish ERA while eating 180+ innings. For what the Sox are paying him, that's not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It seemed like whenever we faced him we always had him in trouble and he would get himself out of it with a good pitch. It always made him seem flukey as hell, but maybe thats just how he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 09:15 AM) Sox are an 83-85 win team as currently constructed. Untouched for the rest of the year? They will probably end in that range. isn't that really what most people projected before the season started? if it weren't for the BLAZING HOT start i think playoff expectations would have been tempered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 2.11 ERA, 4.80 FIP, 1.5 K/BB during the hot streak. Please don't fool yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 09:35 AM) isn't that really what most people projected before the season started? if it weren't for the BLAZING HOT start i think playoff expectations would have been tempered. I want to say the average was in the 86 to 88 range. Most people felt a team on the cusp of the playoffs, but not quite the playoffs IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 https://twitter.com/ScottLindholm/status/758308579677995008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:03 AM) https://twitter.com/ScottLindholm/status/758308579677995008 the most obvious takeaway from that chart is the declining velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) the most obvious takeaway from that chart is the declining velocity. It is percentage of usage, not overall velocity. Going to fangraphs, his velocity is up about half a MPH since he got here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 what does the Y axis say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) the most obvious takeaway from that chart is the declining velocity. Percentage of pitches vs Month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 OK, I am looking at the top chart. You are looking at the bottom chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 He definitely is mixing in his sinked with that power change which makes it very hard to square up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 13m13 minutes ago One of keys to #WhiteSox James Shields' turnaround is lefties are just 1-29 against his fastball in his last 7 starts, per @InsideEdgeScout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 09:22 AM) Or he had a bad stretch followed by a good stretch. Nailed it. He obviously wasn't the worst pitcher of all time when we first got him and he's not as good as he's pitching right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) Someone on twitter said it's all smoke and mirrors, his FIP is high and so is his BABIP. Latos part deux? Some folks just can't be positive at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Some folks just can't be positive at all There's nothing wrong with actually analyzing the situation as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Some folks just can't be positive at all PNoles was tweeting that stuff last week. Trying to diminish his effort. All I know is the results are better after his first four starts or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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