footlongcomiskeydog Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:10 PM) We get it dude, you've already mentioned the Jerry KW thing 5 times in this thread. This is only my third post in this thread and first that mentions Jerry or KW. Get your facts straight bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:13 PM) A guy with about 900 followers tweeted and quickly deleted that Moncada and Bradley were traded for Quintana... but probably deleted because he was fooled by a fake tweet. I saw that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:13 PM) A guy with about 900 followers tweeted and quickly deleted that Moncada and Bradley were traded for Quintana... but probably deleted because he was fooled by a fake tweet. That would be awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:11 PM) And like 3 others. One other thread cool guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 WSD says his source doesnt think Q got traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:24 PM) WSD says his source doesnt think Q got traded. It's funny if he didn't, anyone else catch this Check out @thespinzone's Tweet: https://twitter.com/thespinzone/status/7592...7755987968?s=09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:30 PM) It's funny if he didn't, anyone else catch this Check out @thespinzone's Tweet: https://twitter.com/thespinzone/status/7592...7755987968?s=09 Ha, totally Photoshopped though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Robertson and Frazier to Boston should bring some decent prospects, no? I'm telling you, you don't really wanna trade Sale, Q, Rodon or Shields. If we had bad starting pitching and if we have BAD starting pitching next year, we might start losing 100 games regularly. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 12:48 AM) Robertson and Frazier to Boston should bring some decent prospects, no? I'm telling you, you don't really wanna trade Sale, Q, Rodon or Shields. If we had bad starting pitching and if we have BAD starting pitching next year, we might start losing 100 games regularly. Think about it. That is part of a complete and total rebuild. Trade Frazier and Robertson for prospects even if they are close to being ready say in 2 years. That weakens us for 2 years for more of the same we have going on now. Good starting pitching but now our bullpen is worse than it already is (it's not good to begin with) and our offense is worse (it's terrible to begin with). We'd just be mired in mediocrity just slightly worse and not as set up for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:48 PM) Robertson and Frazier to Boston should bring some decent prospects, no? I'm telling you, you don't really wanna trade Sale, Q, Rodon or Shields. If we had bad starting pitching and if we have BAD starting pitching next year, we might start losing 100 games regularly. Think about it. 1. Boston doesn't need nor want Frazier 2. Teams don't regularly lose 100 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I do think it is interesting that Boston still does not have a destination position for Moncada. Once they determined SS was not an option they tried 2nd. But Pedroia is in the way for upward movement and he has been very average there so far. Before road games they are now working on 3rd ( where Devers plays) and the outfield which already has Betts and Bradley and Benintendi headed there shortly. Moncada may end up being Ortiz's replacement at DH or maybe they will try 1st next. I wonder if he could be had for a Shields + Fulmer right now. Gives Boston pitching now and for the future w/o having to unload a lot of prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) I do think it is interesting that Boston still does not have a destination position for Moncada. Once they determined SS was not an option they tried 2nd. But Pedroia is in the way for upward movement and he has been very average there so far. Before road games they are now working on 3rd ( where Devers plays) and the outfield which already has Betts and Bradley and Benintendi headed there shortly. Moncada may end up being Ortiz's replacement at DH or maybe they will try 1st next. I wonder if he could be had for a Shields + Fulmer right now. Gives Boston pitching now and for the future w/o having to unload a lot of prospects. Don't let Boston guys see this. Moncada is going to play a different position each inning he is da gawd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:08 AM) I wonder if he could be had for a Shields + Fulmer right now. Gives Boston pitching now and for the future w/o having to unload a lot of prospects. Did you honestly just propose the #1 prospect in baseball for Shields & Fulmer? That has to be one the most ridiculous trade proposals I have ever seen on this board. You're undervaluation of Moncada is quite humorous. Edited July 30, 2016 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) I saw a tweet from Peter Gammons saying the White Sox had scouts at every single Red Sox minor league game last night.. I'm sure some sort of dialogue is going on between the Red Sox and White Sox. Edited July 30, 2016 by GreatScott82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:48 PM) Robertson and Frazier to Boston should bring some decent prospects, no? I'm telling you, you don't really wanna trade Sale, Q, Rodon or Shields. If we had bad starting pitching and if we have BAD starting pitching next year, we might start losing 100 games regularly. Think about it. The Sox have "gone for it/all in" with this core, and not only have they not contended, they can't even come close to .500. Hahn needs to accept the failure and sell. Shields is a marginal 4 or #5 starter right now; sell him for whatever you can get. Plenty of players will bring back decent (not elite) prospects back. Only Sale and Q will bring back elite. But that is a lot to sell. Edited July 30, 2016 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 09:16 AM) Did you honestly just propose the #1 prospect in baseball for Shields & Fulmer? That has to be one the most ridiculous trade proposals I have ever seen on this board. You're undervaluation of Moncada is quite humorous. He probably is the #1 offensive prospect in baseball but he may be 2 years away. Also ultimately he may be a DH because Boston has better offensive/defensive young players in the outfield in front of him. Right now, Boston's #1 prospect may be Benintendi( also at AA) who they could promote to LF after the deadline because he is a 2 way player. Boston wants a World Series this year especially w Ortiz exiting and Shields could be that piece to put them over the top. Maybe the Sox have to add another pitching prospect or maybe upgrade to Rodon from Fulmer. Dombrowski is seldom enamored w prospects as he is with instant gratification. Edited July 30, 2016 by SCCWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) He probably is the #1 offensive prospect in baseball but he may be 2 years away. Also ultimately he may be a DH because Boston has better offensive/defensive young players in the outfield in front of him. Right now, Boston's #1 prospect may be Benintendi( also at AA) who they could promote to LF after the deadline because he is a 2 way player. Boston wants a World Series this year especially w Ortiz exiting and Shields could be that piece to put them over the top. Maybe the Sox have to add another pitching prospect or maybe upgrade to Rodon from Fulmer. Dombrowski is seldom enamored w prospects as he is with instant gratification. Shields is a back end starter. The RedSox are not lacking in those types. He will not help them win a WS. Edited July 30, 2016 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) Boston wants a World Series this year especially w Ortiz exiting and Shields could be that piece to put them over the top. Dude, just stop. James Shields is bad and isn't putting any team over the top, let the alone the Red Sox who need a top of the rotation and not a fringe back-end guy. And just because the Red Sox don't have an obvious place for him right now (3B & LF are options down the road), doesn't mean they will give up Moncada for pennies on the dollar. The will only move him if they're getting an elite player in return such as Chris Sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:34 AM) I saw a tweet from Peter Gammons saying the White Sox had scouts at every single Red Sox minor league game last night.. I'm sure some sort of dialogue is going on between the Red Sox and White Sox. Well they have interest in Robertson and probably Duke so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:34 AM) I saw a tweet from Peter Gammons saying the White Sox had scouts at every single Red Sox minor league game last night.. I'm sure some sort of dialogue is going on between the Red Sox and White Sox. Good. You don't want Dombrowski offering a name out there and then scrambling to ask who has seen that guy recently. Glad the Sox are all hands on deck for some moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 It would be fun to see that speed at the top of the lineup with Eaton, Anderson and Moncada. Put them in whatever order. But Boston fans are delusional and just awful to talk to about prospects for our stud SPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 All of you f***ing stop. This is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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