Bob Sacamano Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) How does the order work for who has first crack at picking him up off waivers? Is it by current record or last years record or? From what I understand, once a team picks up a player from waivers they have 10 days to work out a deal with that team, if I understand it correctly? That's different. This is trade waivers. Team putting the player on waivers has 48 hours to work out a deal with highest priority claiming team. Or they can let him go or pull him back. The order is reverse standings. AL gets first crack at AL players and NL gets first crack at NL players. Edited August 29, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 11:41 AM) How does the order work for who has first crack at picking him up off waivers? Is it by current record or last years record or? From what I understand, once a team picks up a player from waivers they have 10 days to work out a deal with that team, if I understand it correctly? Bottom to top teams in the same league this year then bottom to top teams in the opposite league. I wouldn't expect a Puig waiver deal. Dodgers might need him still this year. Maybe off season . Dodgers aren't desperate to be rid of him despite those reports of them trying to give him away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 28, 2016 -> 11:57 PM) He's a positive WAR player the past two seasons. He was worth what Trayce was in 2015 and more than Trayce this year. Or is Trayce someone that you don't want on an MLB roster? Per this board, Trayce is useless...4th outfielder. What, pray tell, is your objection to only trading at a steep discount? Would would you suggest paying for him? Top dollar? Top 100 prospects? Go back and look at threads from 2 years ago...you'll see plenty of suggestions of Q plus for him. .706 OPS this year. Edited August 29, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) Per this board, Trayce is useless...4th outfielder. What, pray tell, is your objection to only trading at a steep discount? Would would you suggest paying for him? Top dollar? Top 100 prospects? Go back and look at threads from 2 years ago...you'll see plenty of suggestions of Q plus for him. .706 OPS this year. April/March .697 OPS May .955 OPS June .700 OPS July .496 OPS Aug MIA And lets not pretend you werent like he was a guaranteed +.800 OPS guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) Per this board, Trayce is useless...4th outfielder. What, pray tell, is your objection to only trading at a steep discount? Would would you suggest paying for him? Top dollar? Top 100 prospects? Go back and look at threads from 2 years ago...you'll see plenty of suggestions of Q plus for him. .706 OPS this year. I did not realize how far he fell during the course of the season. His defensive numbers have been awful. They are negative across the board. Even his offensive numbers fell off pretty hard. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 12:07 PM) So much misinformation out there on Puig, hard to know where teams really stand. I just know that I will be on record that I'd be all for him. Then again, I've said it for a while and the price I would have paid for him would have been much greater a year ago, so probably a good thing the Sox don't listen to me when it comes to Puig. I do know he is the type of lottery ticket who could be a HUGE HUGE spark plug for the team (if he can play to his tools), but he's also been the guy of declining metrics with injury issues for the past couple of seasons too. I'd be on board with the Sox acquiring him, too. If it's true that the Dodgers were willing to essentially "give him away" (which I doubt), the Sox shouldn't have to give much up for him. However, I'd be very surprised if he's not claimed before the Sox's turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
credezcrew24 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 12:20 AM) I'd take Puig if they eat some of his contract. We could sign Cespedes and get the 3 Cubans together. I wonder if Puig would become less of a negative distraction in this scenario. Give them Avi Garcia for Puig with them eating some of Puig's contract. The White Sox wouldn't be able to dump Avi's salary on any team in exchange for nothing. He literally has negative value. He's going to be non-tendered in the offseason. An inclusion of Avi in any trade means the Sox have to add more to the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) The White Sox wouldn't be able to dump Avi's salary on any team in exchange for nothing. He literally has negative value. He's going to be non-tendered in the offseason. An inclusion of Avi in any trade means the Sox have to add more to the deal. The Sox are going to let Avi play and see if any of the work they did with him pays off. I like that they changed his "launch angle". He needs to hit the ball in the air more. Whether it translates into a guy like Nelson Cruz or Jose Bautista who both sucked so bad at the same age, is probably a longshot. But see what he's got. Non tendered seems to be close to a given at this point unless he looks like a changed guy for more than a week or so. He does have games where if you didn't see the entire season, you would have to figure he was a star. He can hit the ball really hard, and seems to bear down a bit late in games. He actually tied for the league lead in walk off hits last year with Josh Donaldson. But once he gets you really excited, he always seems to show you why you kick yourself for being excited. Edited August 29, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) The White Sox wouldn't be able to dump Avi's salary on any team in exchange for nothing. He literally has negative value. He's going to be non-tendered in the offseason. An inclusion of Avi in any trade means the Sox have to add more to the deal. I still would be surprised if Garcia was non-tendered, flat out doing that, letting him go reflects badly on the front office since he was the "centerpiece" of their first major deal under Hahn. I think he needs to go, absolutely...but the Sox won't just release him / give him away. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) I still would be surprised if Garcia was non-tendered, flat out doing that, letting him go reflects badly on the front office since he was the "centerpiece" of their first major deal under Hahn. I think he needs to go, absolutely...but the Sox won't just release him / give him away. Mark Front offices don't think this way, at least not after several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I'm on the fence yet with Avi. Can he be on a 25 man roster and not be an everyday player, I dunno. Backup LF/RF/DH spot starter against lame duck pitchers? Not sure. He IS better than guys like Shuck, Sands, Coats. Wouldn't be the worst guy filling in on a temporary basis if somebody gets hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) The White Sox wouldn't be able to dump Avi's salary on any team in exchange for nothing. He literally has negative value. He's going to be non-tendered in the offseason. An inclusion of Avi in any trade means the Sox have to add more to the deal. Well see, the Dodgers are paying Puig to rot in the minors it's like the Shields deal all over again. It's a pure salary dump for the Dodgers with Puig like it was for Shields. There's no way we should give up more than someone like Avi for Puig. Edited August 29, 2016 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Aug 29, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Well see, the Dodgers are paying Puig to rot in the minors it's like the Shields deal all over again. It's a pure salary dump for the Dodgers with Puig like it was for Shields. There's no way we should give up more than someone like Avi for Puig. It's not a salary dump for the Dodgers. $17.5 million over 2 years is nothing for them and shouldn't even be much of a factor if the Sox want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) sources: puig has been claimed on waivers. dodgers can try to work out a deal with that team, if they can. https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/770727769273663489 Havent seen anything on what team claimed him Edited August 30, 2016 by WhiteSoxLifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 3m3 minutes ago Jon Heyman Retweeted Today's Knuckleball claiming team is mystery at this point. and of course, it's still more likely he's dealt in winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Aug 30, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) sources: puig has been claimed on waivers. dodgers can try to work out a deal with that team, if they can. https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/770727769273663489 Havent seen anything on what team claimed him I realize that no one knows who the claiming team is...but this just wreaks of the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Robertson for Puig makes a ton of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) Robertson for Puig makes a ton of sense Except there is no way no contending team would have claimed Robertson well before he got to the Dodgers. Someone in the AL would have likely put a claim on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2016 -> 04:43 PM) Robertson for Puig makes a ton of sense I was thinking similar of a one for one of Robertson for McCann. Sox had interest in McCann when he was a free agent, have had a hole at catcher, both have 2 years left on deal. Edited August 30, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 30, 2016 -> 04:43 PM) A smart organization like the Dodgers wouldn't pick up Avi if he were free. Very true not many would want him at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Might I add I don't think it was the Sox, as they would have traded for him at the deadline if they loved him so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 30, 2016 -> 05:07 PM) Couldn't this be said about every team in the league other than the Dodgers? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Puig and Avi have Ben pretty similar offensively his season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1. I would not trade for Brian McCann. He has not been good for 3 years. Robertson at least has a chance to be a difference maker in the backend of the bullpen even if he is overpaid. 2. I totally think the White Sox would put a waiver request out for Puig. I just don't think there is a chance in hell that every team in the National League passed on putting a claim for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2016 -> 03:11 PM) Puig and Avi have Ben pretty similar offensively his season But Puig has been an excellent defender throughout his career and brings a ton of value there (and compared to Avi, who is brutal in the field, the measures are even more comical). Offensively, he also is having his worse yes (yes, trend has also been negative) but prior to this year, he also was light years better than Avi offensively (as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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