hi8is Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) You've got one shot at calling one deal in the offseason. Go!! Quintana to the Yankees for Fraizer, Torres, Sanchez, Severino, and Rutherford. Why? Because it'd be comically awesome. Edited August 3, 2016 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 JB Shuck to Rangers for cash Because it would be comically white sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 White Sox do a whole lot of nothing. Hahn: "We anticipate a very competitive post season race in '17, and feel it's best to reconsider any potential trades for next deadline. We're very content going into spring training as is." KW: "I'm a competitive guy. Who says we can't compete next year with the moves we've made this winter? Tell me, who?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 They won't do anything much. The fact that no one was moved at the deadline proves they are going for it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Adams, Michalczewski to the Dbacks for Welington Castillo. Fulmer, A. Nunez and Danish to Padres for Wil Myers Not trades i'd make, but Hahn is going to be motivated to keep his job by winning in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Boston falls apart due to starting rotation. Then they cave. Sale to Boston for Moncada, Benintendi, Kopech, Devers and Vasquez. Maybe the White Sox try to add in Robertson, but I'm calling this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Outcome 1) If Hahn and KW are here for some reason, expect some more retooling. Sign some old, washed up veterans to fill in gaps in CF, C and DH etc.. They will try to bring back Robin, but he will leave on his own-- so they hire Sandy Alomar Jr to replace him-- another white sox-- JR guy. Same story, different corporate puppet. Outcome 2) If JR has the decency to finally do what's right and move on from KW and Hahn (their contracts expire after this season), and he brings in a new GM from outside the organization, than I expect a full blown rebuild. We are talking new scouts and a new philosophy from the top down. He will even have the ability to hire his own manager and coaching staff. The new GMs first big move,trade Sale to a team for a kings ransom-- the rebuild begins. Sadly, I believe outcome #1 is the more likely of the two scenarios. This organization is a joke and will continue to operate in the same manner. Apparently they believe one of these seasons, they will finally catch lightning in a bottle and 'outsmart' their competition. I mean who needs depth in the farm? That's soo overrated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 06:25 AM) Outcome 2) If JR has the decency to finally do what's right and move on from KW and Hahn (their contracts expire after this season) Was this confirmed? I'd do Hawkins-like backflips if EVERYONE'S contracts were up after this horrible crap season. It doesn't mean they won't be back, but it lessens the likelihood, i'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 07:25 AM) Outcome 1) If Hahn and KW are here for some reason, expect some more retooling. Sign some old, washed up veterans to fill in gaps in CF, C and DH etc.. They will try to bring back Robin, but he will leave on his own-- so they hire Sandy Alomar Jr to replace him-- another white sox-- JR guy. Same story, different corporate puppet. Outcome 2) If JR has the decency to finally do what's right and move on from KW and Hahn (their contracts expire after this season), and he brings in a new GM from outside the organization, than I expect a full blown rebuild. We are talking new scouts and a new philosophy from the top down. He will even have the ability to hire his own manager and coaching staff. The new GMs first big move,trade Sale to a team for a kings ransom-- the rebuild begins. Sadly, I believe outcome #1 is the more likely of the two scenarios. This organization is a joke and will continue to operate in the same manner. Apparently they believe one of these seasons, they will finally catch lightning in a bottle and 'outsmart' their competition. I mean who needs depth in the farm? That's soo overrated! I'd be totally fine with Sandy Alomar as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 07:29 AM) Was this confirmed? I'd do Hawkins-like backflips if EVERYONE'S contracts were up after this horrible crap season. It doesn't mean they won't be back, but it lessens the likelihood, i'd think. They mentioned it on ESPN radio. It could be one of the reasons why they made minimal moves at the deadline. Perhaps Jerry has finally seen enough and told KW and Hahn to stand pat because he plans on cleaning house upstairs? I'm not sure Mr. Loyalty himself will do this at the age of 80, but has there ever been a better time to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 As long as JR owns Sox, I do not see a winter blockbuster with the big 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) I'd be totally fine with Sandy Alomar as manager. Anybody is better than Robin and at least Sandy has some coaching experience, however for once can they hire a guy with previous successful MLB managing experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Not a trade, but Dave Martinez or Sandy Alomar Jr as manager. Wanted either last time but pulled Robin into the job instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Ventura resigned or Aaron Rowand as the next manager. Prospects moved out for aged vets past 30 years old. or No moves besides a minor pieces for the bullpen because they believe 2016 was an aberration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) Anybody is better than Robin and at least Sandy has some coaching experience, however for once can they hire a guy with previous successful MLB managing experience? I DOUBT it, but any chance we would see Gardenhire? Not saying whether he would be good or a disaster. But wondering if experience and availability would factor in to the FO's decision? Got a feeling that the clubhouse may be gettimg tired of having sandlot managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) however for once can they hire a guy with previous successful MLB managing experience? No way in hell. He'd want to bring in ALL his own staff/coaches. That doesn't play around these parts. Sox only hire desperate people. ------------ I predict Sale has a meltdown at some point calling somebody a naughty word again which will "force" the Sox to trade him (can't abide by insubordination). They will trade him for a youngish position player and a couple of prospects. Add a couple replacement FAs and be "all in" for 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) I DOUBT it, but any chance we would see Gardenhire? Not saying whether he would be good or a disaster. But wondering if experience and availability would factor in to the FO's decision? Got a feeling that the clubhouse may be gettimg tired of having sandlot managers I hope not. I'd rather have almost anyone than Gardenhire. He's a baseball dinosaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) No way in hell. He'd want to bring in ALL his own staff/coaches. That doesn't play around these parts. Sox only hire desperate people. ------------ I predict Sale has a meltdown at some point calling somebody a naughty word again which will "force" the Sox to trade him (can't abide by insubordination). They will trade him for a youngish position player and a couple of prospects. Add a couple replacement FAs and be "all in" for 2017. They will not trade him for a youngish position player and a couple of prospects unless it's like Mookie Betts, Moncada, and Denintendi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Price and Porcello fail to get it done down the stretch and Dombrowski's hand is forced... Sale and Melky to the Red Sox for Betts, Devers, and Groome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 12:29 PM) Price and Porcello fail to get it done down the stretch and Dombrowski's hand is forced... Sale and Melky to the Red Sox for Betts, Devers, and Groome I just don't think they'll touch their major league roster. Would love it but I don't know. That's why I made the Moncada, Benny, Kopech, Devers and Vaquez deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) I just don't think they'll touch their major league roster. Would love it but I don't know. That's why I made the Moncada, Benny, Kopech, Devers and Vaquez deal. If they're allowed to keep Benny and Moncada, I think that they could be convinced to deal Betts or Bradley. They have A LOT of offensive talent on both the major league and minor league rosters. Edited August 4, 2016 by Black_Jack29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) No way in hell. He'd want to bring in ALL his own staff/coaches. That doesn't play around these parts. Sox only hire desperate people. So sad but so true. It's pretty pathetic how invincible Coop and KW are. That 2005 championship bought them both lifetime contracts with this organization. Note to the new manager (Sandy Alomar)-- don't even think about bringing in your own pitching coach. Not that I blame Coop for this crapstorm of an organization, it's just ridiculous how content everyone upstairs is with the status quo. When you fail over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (8 years since last playoff birth) and your approach is relatively the same (retool), something is definitely wrong here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Robertson and cash back to the Yankees for a pair of mid-level prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 My guess is they approach the offseason like 2017 is still the last in a three-year window to compete. They go out and add a few more average pieces to try to paper over the holes from this year. And if it doesn't work, they raise the white flag and are big time sellers at the 2017 trade deadline. If they get an offer they can't refuse on Sale or Q in the offseason though, with some MLB-ready pieces they can plug right into the lineup, they pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (FT35 @ Aug 5, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) Robertson and cash back to the Yankees for a pair of mid-level prospects. I think this could happen but I'd bet money on the Yankees resigning Chapman. I guess both could happen though. Edited August 5, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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