caulfield12 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) It really might be the most inept front office in baseball right now. Nothing they have done during this season has made sense. Stewart/LaRussa...we haven't stumbled to that level (yet) with Miller trade and signing Greinke too late in his career. Preller is now extremely well-supported in SD for his course correction. Edited August 20, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 01:32 AM) Who said that? But calling them the most inept is hyperbole.would you trade Hahn and kW for Stewart and LaRussa? They both are god awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:30 PM) Did he? Who f***ing cares? That was when he was warming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) He looked good in the first inning Perfect in fact, as Scott Merkin tweeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Greg would trade for LaRussa the manager and Stewart the pitching coach... Hopefully this is franchise rock bottom with Fulmer also getting ripped to shreds in AAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I have outfield seats for Shields next start vs Seattle. Should be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) They both are god awful Maybe. KW at least won once. You would think the law of averages would catch up to the Sox at some point. Something has to work out. But they do need to be all in if they are going for it. The hoping 3 or 4 bargains work out, nobody gets hurt, and everyone else has a big year hope needs to end, and something more realistic needs to take its placeThe injuries hurt them and I know some teams are missing better players but the Sox have no depth so their injuries result in guys who should hardly ever play getting a lot of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 It would be nice to see the pen shut them down. Usually the mental midgetness kicks in and they think it's OK to give up runs. So they do and don't get s*** from the manager for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:39 PM) I have outfield seats for Shields next start vs Seattle. Should be interesting Bring a mitt. They are coming out there pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 It's prett pathetic that your greatest hope and aspiration as a Sox fan is that guys like Dunn, Danks, LaRoche and Shields would simply retire or at least be kidnapped by peaceful politically-correct rebel groups... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) Maybe. KW at least won once. You would think the law of averages would catch up to the Sox at some point. Something has to work out. But they do need to be all in if they are going for it. The hoping 3 or 4 bargains work out, nobody gets hurt, and everyone else has a big year hope needs to end, and something more realistic needs to take its placeThe injuries hurt them and I know some teams are missing better players but the Sox have no depth so their injuries result in guys who should hardly ever play getting a lot of play. and a pen costing them games......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 01:41 AM) Maybe. KW at least won once. You would think the law of averages would catch up to the Sox at some point. Something has to work out. But they do need to be all in if they are going for it. The hoping 3 or 4 bargains work out, nobody gets hurt, and everyone else has a big year hope needs to end, and something more realistic needs to take its placeThe injuries hurt them and I know some teams are missing better players but the Sox have no depth so their injuries result in guys who should hardly ever play getting a lot of play. Agreed, it's hard to be as bad with transactions the last two years as the Sox have been. Some of the moves that even made sense have completely blown up in their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 01:41 AM) Bring a mitt. They are coming out there pretty quickly. Shields should match up well vs Seattle, right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:39 PM) I have outfield seats for Shields next start vs Seattle. Should be interesting Bring your Goalie gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:34 PM) Stewart/LaRussa...we haven't stumbled to that level (yet) with Miller trade and signing Greinke too late in his career. Preller is now extremely well-supported in SD for his course correction. Plus, Preller went up against Rick Hahn mano a mano, and Hahn was obliterated in the trade. A complete mismatch, like Hahn is against most GMs. And I would be shocked if the farm is rated any higher than #25 in December. Edited August 20, 2016 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) Maybe. KW at least won once. You would think the law of averages would catch up to the Sox at some point. Something has to work out. But they do need to be all in if they are going for it. The hoping 3 or 4 bargains work out, nobody gets hurt, and everyone else has a big year hope needs to end, and something more realistic needs to take its placeThe injuries hurt them and I know some teams are missing better players but the Sox have no depth so their injuries result in guys who should hardly ever play getting a lot of play. That makes zero sense when Schneider has led MLB training staffs in recent years in terms of avoiding DL stints. If injuries to guys like Coats, Kevan Smith, Tilson, Avi Garcia, Lawrie, Petricka and Putnam are lethal...you just have zero quality depth. Gonzalez and Rodon, same thing. If anything, the Austin Jackson injury hurt the most because that forced a lousy bat AND defender into the lineup. Avila simply exposed Navarro. Every contending team in the AL Central has gone through worse. Even the Tigers lost JD Martinez for almost three months. And if the team actually had anything to play for, you wouldn't see so many guys missing time imo. Edited August 20, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) and a pen costing them games......... Petricka and Putnam being hurt didn't help. And if they were contending they probably pick up a guy like Rodney during the season. But I do agree, a stellar pen is key to winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 This is some performance. Feel bad for the fans at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 Why does it seem as if hardly any of our hitters are even trying tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:48 PM) That makes zero sense when Schneider has led MLB training staffs in recent years in terms of avoiding DL stints. If injuries to guys like Coats, Kevan Smith, Tilson, Avi Garcia, Lawrie, Petricka and Putnam are lethal...you just have zero quality depth. Gonzalez and Rodon, same thing. If anything, the Austin Jackson injury hurt the most because that forced a lousy bat AND defender into the lineup. Avila simply exposed Navarro. Every contending team in the AL Central has gone through worse. Even the Tigers lost JD Martinez for almost three months. And if the team actually had anything to play for, you wouldn't see so many guys missing time imo. You just mentioned 11injuries It is a huge number on a team that is banking on leading the league in healh, and have zero depth. Edited August 20, 2016 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:45 PM) Plus, Preller went up against Rick Hahn mano a mano, and Hahn was obliterated in the trade. A complete mismatch, like Hahn is against most GMs. And I would be shocked if the farm is rated any higher than #25 in December. Except for Erik Johnson, yeah. Hahn went into desperation mode because of the early hot start. Danks would probably be putting up the same numbers and quietly exiting if they went out 10-23, or even retired before the end of the season. If you add Javy Guerra, Ian Desmond and a decent veteran reliever and part time catcher to this roster, it's a very competitive team. Why they have stuck with Matt Albers this long after running off Danks, Latos and Rollins is completely beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Preller is awesome. He is paying Shields more than Hahn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:52 PM) You just mentioned 11injuries It is a huge number on a team that is banking on leading the league in healh, and have zero depth. And the unforgettable Matt Davidson... And you honestly think they'll blame injuries, their own lack of any quality depth, the Shields debacle and extend Ventura at the end of the year with those three excuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 Their pitche has thrown only 63 pitches while Shileds has thrown 90....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:54 PM) Except for Erik Johnson, yeah. Hahn went into desperation mode because of the early hot start. Danks would probably be putting up the same numbers and quietly exiting if they went out 10-23, or even retired before the end of the season. If you add Javy Guerra, Ian Desmond and a decent veteran reliever and part time catcher to this roster, it's a very competitive team. Why they have stuck with Matt Albers this long after running off Danks, Latos and Rollins is completely beyond me. It is Junior Guerra. For someone who still give KW crap for Berry/Barry you would think you would be better with names. He is also on the DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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