Ducksnort Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Good interview IMO by Hahn. "I wouldn't have taken the general manager position if I didn't think it would be recipe for success...none of us have to be here. We all are here to help bring another championship to Chicago." http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...olds-plans-2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 07:17 AM) Good interview IMO by Hahn. "I wouldn't have taken the general manager position if I didn't think it would be recipe for success...none of us have to be here. We all are here to help bring another championship to Chicago." http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...olds-plans-2017 Sounds like at least a moderate rebuild to me. I don't think they trade Sale and Quintana but I bet one of them goes along with Melky, DRob, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 08:30 AM) Sounds like at least a moderate rebuild to me. I don't think they trade Sale and Quintana but I bet one of them goes along with Melky, DRob, etc. It's kind of weird. To know with the first or second move seems like he would have to have something almost in place. How can he anticipate the price tag will be met with anyone. He could sign some free agent which would indicate going for it again. There seems to be too much of it's possible we step back, and questioning their current strategy, for their not to be some sort of pullback. Maybe they trade some guys, get some minor and major league players back, and sort of do both. With trading Sale or Q, you probably could do that with the return they would bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 First move: Sox sign Chapman, 5/100Billion Second move: Sox sign Josh Hamilton 4/200M win all the superbowls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 09:03 AM) It's kind of weird. To know with the first or second move seems like he would have to have something almost in place. How can he anticipate the price tag will be met with anyone. He could sign some free agent which would indicate going for it again. There seems to be too much of it's possible we step back, and questioning their current strategy, for their not to be some sort of pullback. Maybe they trade some guys, get some minor and major league players back, and sort of do both. With trading Sale or Q, you probably could do that with the return they would bring. Doing both wouldn't be surprising. For example, trade Sale, Robertson, Melky. Keep Quintana and re-sign Frazier. People wouldn't necessarily be happy but I could see them doing something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 What else is Hahn going to say here?? We will see how the off season goes to see who is really running things.. If it's another half ass reload we know it's not Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) What else is Hahn going to say here?? We will see how the off season goes to see who is really running things.. If it's another half ass reload we know it's not Hahn. No comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I'd like a trade of either Sale or Q for a package that has MLB ready hitters, keep the rest + add another bat, then blow it all up at the deadline when they're 10 games under again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 07:17 AM) Good interview IMO by Hahn. "I wouldn't have taken the general manager position if I didn't think it would be recipe for success...none of us have to be here. We all are here to help bring another championship to Chicago." http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...olds-plans-2017 How different is this from what Hahn was saying this time last year, this time two years ago, and all the way back to when he was named GM. That's the problem - he and the other two running the show have all of the feel good sound bites down to a tee. Talking the talk they can do. It's the actions to back up these words that they, for whatever reason, have been pretty bad at each and every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 At this point, far better that they just shut up and get to work. Actions speak louder than words. Let Merkin or Boyer throw out the embarrassing quotes while KW is hanging out at the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain54 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) What else is Hahn going to say here?? We will see how the off season goes to see who is really running things.. If it's another half ass reload we know it's not Hahn. Comments from KW earlier in the week indicated that the problems in 2016 were 'spearheaded" by bullpen injuries…. I take that to mean they are of the opinion that the catalyst for the horrific tumble after the 23-10 was the two guys in the pen that went down… That certainly addresses the issue of how the Sox got to lead the league in Blown Saves, and possibly how a closer ends up being one of the league leader in blown saves, but those stretches of non-existent offense, account equally for why the team is in the state it's in….IMHO Edited August 27, 2016 by captain54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 27, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) Comments from KW earlier in the week indicated that the problems in 2016 were 'spearheaded" by bullpen injuries…. I take that to mean they are of the opinion that the catalyst for the horrific tumble after the 23-10 was the two guys in the pen that went down… That certainly addresses the issue of how the Sox got to lead the league in Blown Saves, and possibly how a closer ends up being one of the league leader in blown saves, but those stretches of non-existent offense, account equally for why the team is in the state it's in….IMHO My guess is they're going for it in 2017. Guess I can't really blame them for that, since they could likely trade their assets for equal returns at the 2017 deadline / 2017-2018 offseason. It's just awful we're in August wishing it was December or April already. Horrid time to be a sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 27, 2016 -> 02:46 PM) Comments from KW earlier in the week indicated that the problems in 2016 were 'spearheaded" by bullpen injuries…. I take that to mean they are of the opinion that the catalyst for the horrific tumble after the 23-10 was the two guys in the pen that went down… That certainly addresses the issue of how the Sox got to lead the league in Blown Saves, and possibly how a closer ends up being one of the league leader in blown saves, but those stretches of non-existent offense, account equally for why the team is in the state it's in….IMHO Well going into tonight the Sox have scored three runs or less in 46% of their games this season. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 27, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) My guess is they're going for it in 2017. Guess I can't really blame them for that, since they could likely trade their assets for equal returns at the 2017 deadline / 2017-2018 offseason. It's just awful we're in August wishing it was December or April already. Horrid time to be a sox fan. You just hope none of those "assets" get hurt during the first part of next season before they have a chance to trade them...or their value goes up in smoke. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 27, 2016 -> 03:46 PM) Comments from KW earlier in the week indicated that the problems in 2016 were 'spearheaded" by bullpen injuries…. The idea that losing Putnam and Petricka are the difference between contending and losing is just more denial out of the front office....refusal to take responsibility and admit their factual failure. I have been concerned for a while that they would look for excuses and that injuries would be one of them (Ventura the other) instead of recognizing that their personnel moves and decisions have been poor and changing tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 27, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) You just hope none of those "assets" get hurt during the first part of next season before they have a chance to trade them...or their value goes up in smoke. Mark True that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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