Dioner Navarro traded to Blue Jays

[Kyyle23]

Per MLBTR

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

Something is better than nothing.

[GreenSox]

We got nothing in trade; but we cleared room on the roster for other players to play, so that's something.

Edited August 26, 2016 by GreenSox

[Kyyle23]

We got nothing in trade; but we cleared room on the roster for other players to play, so that's something.

 

Nothing? Tell me what you know about Turner. He may be an improving young player like Saladino

[Dick Allen]

Dioner seems like a good guy and good teammate. However, anyone doubting pitch framing needs to check out footage of him behind the plate. More strikes were called balls when he was catching this year than I have ever seen.

[Chisoxfn]

http://www.baseballessential.com/news/2016...tint-australia/

 

Interesting read on Turner.

[SoxAce]

Nothing? Tell me what you know about Turner. He may be an improving young player like Saladino

 

He's 25 in AA. Let's not get carried away. He does throw left handed however so he may stick around.

[Chisoxfn]

He's 25 in AA. Let's not get carried away. He does throw left handed however so he may stick around.

Part of why he is older is due to missing time from Tommy John.

[soxforlife05]

He's 25 in AA. Let's not get carried away. He does throw left handed however so he may stick around.

 

Middle relief depth in the minors for upcoming couple seasons. Nothing more.

[Blackout Friday]

From the only scouting report I read he throws his fastball around 85mph, unless he has crazy deception or something I wouldn't expect much. He's also Rule 5 eligible.

 

But the fact we got anything for him is a small victory.

[Ducksnort]

From the only scouting report I read he throws his fastball around 85mph, unless he has crazy deception or something I wouldn't expect much. He's also Rule 5 eligible.

 

But the fact we got anything for him is a small victory.

Well, he probably does have deception because Steve Stone just said he has a lot of strikeouts on his record.

 

According to the whitesox.com article (http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/197828950/white-sox-acquire-left-hander-colton-turner/)...

 

This year Turner has a 1.33 ERA over 54 innings with 70 strikeouts (averaging over 11 strikeouts per 9 innings) between class-a and AA for Toronto. He is 12-9 with a 2.76 ERA and 200 strikeouts in 107 games (16 starts) in the Blue Jays' system.

 

He also had a 5.23 ERA over 9 appearances in AAA.

 

Those seem like pretty solid numbers to me other than the AAA stint which might be of concern...

[Blackout Friday]

Well, he probably does have deception because Steve Stone just said he has a lot of strikeouts on his record.

 

According to the whitesox.com article (http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/197828950/white-sox-acquire-left-hander-colton-turner/)...

 

This year Turner has a 1.33 ERA over 54 innings with 70 strikeouts (averaging over 11 strikeouts per 9 innings) between class-a and AA for Toronto. He is 12-9 with a 2.76 ERA and 200 strikeouts in 107 games (16 starts) in the Blue Jays' system.

 

He also had a 5.23 ERA over 9 appearances in AAA.

 

Those seem like pretty solid numbers to me other than the AAA stint which might be of concern...

I know the k/9 was high in a-ball, but he's also 25. It's hard to know for sure.

 

And I think he's only made it to AA so far, which is where the struggles were.

[Kyyle23]

He's 25 in AA. Let's not get carried away. He does throw left handed however so he may stick around.

 

Am I getting carried away for thinking he may be a bit better than nothing? I wouldn't think that to be the case

[Ducksnort]

I know the k/9 was high in a-ball, but he's also 25. It's hard to know for sure.

 

And I think he's only made it to AA so far, which is where the struggles were.

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I'm guess he will get a September call up and we can see what hes got. Maybe he has Mark Buehrle-esque stuff but with strikeouts

[GreenSox]

Nothing? Tell me what you know about Turner. He may be an improving young player like Saladino

He's 25 and just out of A ball and rule 5 eligible.

Whiffed again...

How are those proven veterans working out?

Edited August 27, 2016 by GreenSox

[SoxAce]

Am I getting carried away for thinking he may be a bit better than nothing? I wouldn't think that to be the case

 

There's a difference between saying "a bit better" and "improving" ala Saladino who was actually a decent prospect in the minors (and age appropriate at the time). Like I said though, anytime you throw left handed, you can always carve out a career. Hopefully this guy handles AAA well and goes from there.

[Blackout Friday]

He's 25 and just out of A ball.

Whiffed again...

I believe he had TJ surgery for what it's worth. Drafted out of college his development would be behind logically.

 

But who knows. The bar is as low as it gets in this case.

[caulfield12]

The next Wunsch/Wasserman/Bradford type.

 

I think Takatsu at his age might still be more effective.

[hi8is]

From the only scouting report I read he throws his fastball around 85mph, unless he has crazy deception or something I wouldn't expect much. He's also Rule 5 eligible.

 

But the fact we got anything for him is a small victory.

94-95 on the fastball. Try again.

[Kyyle23]

There's a difference between saying "a bit better" and "improving" ala Saladino who was actually a decent prospect in the minors (and age appropriate at the time). Like I said though, anytime you throw left handed, you can always carve out a career. Hopefully this guy handles AAA well and goes from there.

 

The "improving young player" line is Greensox line any time someone doubts the greatness that is Tyler Saladino.

 

He's 25 and just out of A ball and rule 5 eligible.

Whiffed again...

How are those proven veterans working out?

 

About as well as your idea to trade Eaton for some lottery tickets. Turner is in his second year after tommy John and his numbers improved dramatically this season, but I don't imagine you bothered to look at that when you declared he was nothing

[elrockinMT]

Navarro wasn't going to be back in ,,2017 and I have to wonder if Avila will be either

Edited August 27, 2016 by elrockinMT

[Blackout Friday]

94-95 on the fastball. Try again.

I said from the one scouting report I read, which is this one:

 

http://www.bluejaysfromaway.com/lansing-le...outing-reports/

 

Don't really see why the attitude is necessary. If you've seen something different, post it. We're all going on speculation. That "try again" stuff is just childish.

[Kyyle23]

I said from the one scouting report I read, which is this one:

 

http://www.bluejaysfromaway.com/lansing-le...outing-reports/

 

Don't really see why the attitude is necessary. If you've seen something different, post it. We're all going on speculation. That "try again" stuff is just childish.

 

That article is from 2013, I bet it was right before he had his TJS

[Blackout Friday]

That article is from 2013, I bet it was right before he had his TJS

Could be, but velocity doesn't tend to variate 10mph.

 

I was just posting what I read. This nonsense reminds me why I post so seldom.

[hi8is]

I said from the one scouting report I read, which is this one:

 

http://www.bluejaysfromaway.com/lansing-le...outing-reports/

 

Don't really see why the attitude is necessary. If you've seen something different, post it. We're all going on speculation. That "try again" stuff is just childish.

Tone on the Internet is pretty difficult to understand. Your disdane is likely projection in this case. Sorry you were offended but it's really your problem. Cheers.