balfanman Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 This poor excuse for a baseball management "team" couldn't possibly entertain any thoughts of going on with Avisail Garcia anywhere near this organization in 2017 could they? I try not to be one who overreacts much, but gee, I would of cut him immediately after this game! I don't believe that he alone cost the White Sox this game, it's that he represents what's wrong with this team as a whole. No freaking fundamentals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I'm going to be hard-pressed to support this franchise if Avi is back in any meaningful role. He's been below replacement level four years in a row, it would be an utter slap in the face to our fanbase to trot him back out there for another season. Having said that, I seriously doubt he's on the roster next year. I think it's far more likely they hand Tilson the CF job, which would also be a complete joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 05:10 PM) I'm going to be hard-pressed to support this franchise if Avi is back in any meaningful role. He's been below replacement level four years in a row, it would be an utter slap in the face to our fanbase to trot him back out there for another season. Having said that, I seriously doubt he's on the roster next year. I think it's far more likely they hand Tilson the CF job, which would also be a complete joke. I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I hope ZERO.......................scouting department with a epic fail on Avi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 With Albers and his 6.19 ERA and 11.4 H/9 still on the team, I wouldn't hold my breath. If a 33 year old reliever has stuck around this long, I can't see them giving up on a 25 year old just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 http://www.southsidesox.com/2016/8/31/1272...uit-matt-albers For me, it would be Albers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 He's another bust. He blows. I never thought he'd be as bad as Dayan, but he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 http://m.mlb.com/video/v1118878783/cwsdet-...layer_id=607385 Take that back. Pierre, Pods and Damon would have done better from left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 11:38 PM) He's another bust. He blows. I never thought he'd be as bad as Dayan, but he is. He is isn't he? I actually thought he might turn out to be good. Not one of my better prognostications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Ask me after September. They have been trying to replace the guy for a year now, and every time they think they do, something else happens and he works back into the line up. I know they are working on the whole "launch angle" thing, and there is always a small chance that yields results, but the odds have to be pretty small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 04:58 PM) Ask me after September. They have been trying to replace the guy for a year now, and every time they think they do, something else happens and he works back into the line up. I know they are working on the whole "launch angle" thing, and there is always a small chance that yields results, but the odds have to be pretty small. At this point, it's almost as likely they would get the same results from Hawkins or Tebow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 05:58 PM) Ask me after September. They have been trying to replace the guy for a year now, and every time they think they do, something else happens and he works back into the line up. I know they are working on the whole "launch angle" thing, and there is always a small chance that yields results, but the odds have to be pretty small. Why continue to play him. It's call up season so play coats or a few other guys. I know Hahn and Williams aren't really interested in this players but maybe one will have a good September and Hahn can throw him in the package for the inevitable trade for a veteran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 06:33 PM) Why continue to play him. It's call up season so play coats or a few other guys. I know Hahn and Williams aren't really interested in this players but maybe one will have a good September and Hahn can throw him in the package for the inevitable trade for a veteran. Because he has more ceiling than anyone else that would be called up right now, and we are out of it. It isn't like we are playing to win anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 He made a bad throw and probably couldn't have thrown the guy out anyway. Classic overreaction in my mind over a bad game and loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 05:58 PM) Ask me after September. They have been trying to replace the guy for a year now, and every time they think they do, something else happens and he works back into the line up. I know they are working on the whole "launch angle" thing, and there is always a small chance that yields results, but the odds have to be pretty small. As much as I can't stand this organization right now, I do agree with this. They have been trying to replace him and something always comes up, I don't see him back next season. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 07:04 PM) Because he has more ceiling than anyone else that would be called up right now, and we are out of it. It isn't like we are playing to win anyway. This I don't agree with. The dude has no ceiling at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I think Avi has looked better at the plate lately... but defensively he is nothing. As disappointing as he has been... The bullpen has destroyed us this year.... utterly. Our greatest hitter didn't start hitting until august... Frazier hitting .208... Then you add the injuries and a manager who never had the it factor... and you have a 63-69 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 07:26 PM) I think Avi has looked better at the plate lately... but defensively he is nothing. As disappointing as he has been... The bullpen has destroyed us this year.... utterly. Our greatest hitter didn't start hitting until august... Frazier hitting .208... Then you add the injuries and a manager who never had the it factor... and you have a 63-69 team He went through a nice streak early in the season too but he'll regress back to being what he is. You still look at his overall hitting stats and he's just garbage. He's just an awful, awful baseball player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 07:21 PM) As much as I can't stand this organization right now, I do agree with this. They have been trying to replace him and something always comes up, I don't see him back next season. This I don't agree with. The dude has no ceiling at this point. Its all relative. I mean who else is there right now? Shuck sucks. Coats isn't exactly a premium player either, and isn't on the roster at this point anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2016 -> 07:33 PM) Its all relative. I mean who else is there right now? Shuck sucks. Coats isn't exactly a premium player either, and isn't on the roster at this point anyway. That's definitely fair. I just don't care at all to see Avi anymore, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I hope Avi isn't around next year, but these are the White Sox and you simply never know. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (harkness @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 12:26 AM) The bullpen has destroyed us this year.... utterly. The bullpen destroys us every year. Some of the moves look good on paper, but the relievers always blow chunks. My gawd, it's not that difficult. You win with defense and pitching. We have decent starting pitchers who rarely go 7 innings and a PATHETIC bullpen always. And our defense and team speed is nothing to write home about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH612 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I did not see the game yesterday. What happened with Avi? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (Coach @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 06:07 AM) I did not see the game yesterday. What happened with Avi? Anyone? Showed his lack of fundamentals ( none actually ) and lacksidaisical attitude on the sacrifice fly that brought in the winning run for Detroit in the bottom of the 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 he caught the ball, couldn't get a handle on it and pretty much threw it straight into the ground. would've taken a great through to nail him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) he caught the ball, couldn't get a handle on it and pretty much threw it straight into the ground. would've taken a great through to nail him. No. Bernstein said yesterday (with help from Scott from Davenport) that there have been 238 fly balls (of 200 feet or less) to left this season with a runner on 3rd base. Only 6 of those runners have scored. After yesterday, that number is up to 7. It was a terrible setup, it was an even more terrible throw, but it wasnt a herculean feat to get that ball home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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