southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Sounds guilty on all other aggrevated battery for each shot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Not guity of official misconduct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 This seems right to me, and I believe justice was served. 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Sounds guilty on all other aggrevated battery for each shot too. I hope the officers that lied see punishment as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I'm legit shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, pettie4sox said: I'm legit shocked. Between burge dying, a mostly white jury now convicting Van Dyke, and the consent decree, I am really hoping the seeds of real change are put in place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me the 16 guilty counts of aggravated battery seems to be that he was guilty for even firing the 1st shot. Is that a correct assessment for the verdict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Yes but all 16 counts are in essence one charge. Also can only be sentenced for 2nd degree murder or aggravated assault. He'll spend about 3 years in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Harry Chappas said: Yes but all 16 counts are in essence one charge. Also can only be sentenced for 2nd degree murder or aggravated assault. He'll spend about 3 years in prison. My understanding is it’s 16 separate counts of aggravated battery, so he’s getting life+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Y2HH said: My understanding is it’s 16 separate counts of aggravated battery, so he’s getting life+. It's going to be a long road until this is all settled. I work as a career law clerk for one of the appellate court justices in Illinois (Cook County), and it will be at least 18 months until this is all settled. He likely won't even be sentenced for several months. It's also very possible his appeal comes before my boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 The video is misleading and does not show what really happened his attorney said. To think the guy was off-duty and rushed over for some target practice. In mortal fear for his own life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 On 10/6/2018 at 7:31 AM, Y2HH said: My understanding is it’s 16 separate counts of aggravated battery, so he’s getting life+. I'm assuming that at least some of the sentences will be run concurrently. So maybe it's 3 years per charge, but they run at the same time, something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, StrangeSox said: I'm assuming that at least some of the sentences will be run concurrently. So maybe it's 3 years per charge, but they run at the same time, something like that. If this is the case, what was the point of convicting him on 16 separate counts? This seems like some sort of insane loophole purposefully written into the law. I think 1 count of agg battery is like 4-40 years or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, Y2HH said: If this is the case, what was the point of convicting him on 16 separate counts? This seems like some sort of insane loophole purposefully written into the law. I think 1 count of agg battery is like 4-40 years or something? I think it gives the judges discretion based on the case itself rather than having mandatory minimums etc. Each individual shot was an separate instance of aggravated battery, but should we treat this case the same as a person who committed 16 different acts of aggravated battery at different times and against different people? I imagine it also comes into play when someone is up for parole. Maybe they're serving all 16 sentences concurrently, but they're less likely to be let out early than someone serving the same time period for one conviction? Think of non-violent crimes, like dealing drugs or kiting checks. You could be guilty of writing 20 bad checks, each with a sentence of 6 months in prison. Does it make sense to put that person in prison for 10 years? Or does it make more sense to put him in prison for a total of 6 months, but know that he's got this big black mark on his record that can factor in to repeat offenses, parole, etc.? Someone who is actually a lawyer or who has criminal justice experience/background could probably provide a better answer than my guess-work though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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