southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN MLB investigation on Padres' nearing conclusion http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1755432...on-mlb-database Chris Rongey @ChrisRongey 27m27 minutes ago White Sox one of the teams upset with the Padres. They got Shields from SD, remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 That's so crappy by the Padres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 When the Marlins sent Rae back to SD after his first appearance, I felt like something weird was up.. This pretty much confirms it. I don't know what the repercussions could be, but some additional salary relief wouldn't suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'd actually feel better if the health issue is related to Shields and there was something more that he's pitched through but is impacting him (and would have changed our decision). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 02:36 PM) I'd actually feel better if the health issue is related to Shields and there was something more that he's pitched through but is impacting him (and would have changed our decision). I don't recall it from before, but he has looked like he is constantly trying to stretch out his back when he is out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) I don't recall it from before, but he has looked like he is constantly trying to stretch out his back when he is out there. Just a reminder that Boston was hot for Shields before the deadline. But Boston press said Red Sox decided against it after seeing his overall drop in velocity on his fastball by I think 2 -3 Mph. It was also noted at the time he was giving up a lot of fly balls and Boston felt he would not be effective in Fenway. So I think if Boston saw he was struggling and passed on him, we don't have much to complain about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Send us more money or send us Tatis Jr. back and I'm alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) Just a reminder that Boston was hot for Shields before the deadline. But Boston press said Red Sox decided against it after seeing his overall drop in velocity on his fastball by I think 2 -3 Mph. It was also noted at the time he was giving up a lot of fly balls and Boston felt he would not be effective in Fenway. So I think if Boston saw he was struggling and passed on him, we don't have much to complain about. Exactly I'm not really sure we have a case as he has made all his starts while being here. But it can't hurt to try to get compensation for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I understand this is frowned upon but we do get a chance to give physical so we should be more upset with ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) I understand this is frowned upon but we do get a chance to give physical so we should be more upset with ourselves. After the deal maybe but its not like they were going to fly Shields out here before the deal and then decide. No one does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'll take another $2.5M per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) I understand this is frowned upon but we do get a chance to give physical so we should be more upset with ourselves. Yeah, but in a soft tissue situation, this can show the red flags of things you need to check further. I mean no physical is going to include MRIs on everything, so it is easy to not know something is going on if you don't have the relevant info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 12m12 minutes ago Members of the Padres organization have been frightened in recent weeks at potential sanctions. Now you can see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Didn't the Sox say Aaron Rowand played a part in the acquisition? Wouldn't he know if Shields was taking advil and doing stuff for his back? There is no doubt some buyer's remorse here, but on the other hand, the Padres apparently not playing straight with everyone, to me, should be a huge penalty. Not unlike the hacking case. Deliberately holding out information for better trades is something that should make heads roll and the team to take a huge hit either player-wise or financially with every team they exchanged players. If it is true someone ordered 2 sets of files, whoever ordered it should be in their finals days employed by a major league team. Edited September 15, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 01:04 PM) Didn't the Sox say Aaron Rowand played a part in the acquisition? Wouldn't he know if Shields was taking advil and doing stuff for his back? There is no doubt some buyer's remorse here, but on the other hand, the Padres apparently not playing straight with everyone, to me, should be a huge penalty. Not unlike the hacking case. Deliberately holding out information for better trades is something that should make heads roll and the team to take a huge hit either player-wise or financially with every team they exchanged players. If it is true someone ordered 2 sets of files, whoever ordered it should be in their finals days employed by a major league team. While I realize they are cousins, I wonder if Shields would be that open regarding some of that information and what would Aaron Rowand be actually willing to share / share. I actually hadn't realized they were cousins until you made the post (and I decided to google it). I agree that the Padres should take a pretty significant hit for this (if it proves to be true). And by big hit, each team should essentially have right to undo trade with other repercussions and Padres should also be penalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Kyle Glaser @KyleAGlaser Someone in the know told me this is serious enough A.J. Preller, Mike Dee may be forced out by MLB office. We'll see http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17554327/san-diego-padres-face-discipline-hiding-players-medical-information-mlb-database …://http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-mlb-database … 0 retweets 4 likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Brian Bilek @BrianBilek_ 3m3 minutes ago AJ Preller faced sanctions with #Rangers, was under investigation with #Padres and now caught withholding medical records in three trades. 1 retweet 0 likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Very interesting. Wonder what, if any, remedies will exist for the Sox (or any other team similarly adversely impacted)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm just trying to be consistent with my stance as a 14 year old regarding Sirotka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 03:28 PM) Kyle Glaser @KyleAGlaser Someone in the know told me this is serious enough A.J. Preller, Mike Dee may be forced out by MLB office. We'll see http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17554327/san-diego-padres-face-discipline-hiding-players-medical-information-mlb-database …://http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-mlb-database …://http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-mlb-database … 0 retweets 4 likes If what is being reported is true, that would be the first appropriate action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) I'm just trying to be consistent with my stance as a 14 year old regarding Sirotka. I get that the Sox are ultimately responsible, but if a team is intentionally withholding information that is a pretty big deal. Was that actually being said of the Sox and Sirotka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) Very interesting. Wonder what, if any, remedies will exist for the Sox (or any other team similarly adversely impacted)? I doubt any team on the short end gets a remedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Tradebacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I thought it was weird right after the trade that the Padres tweeted out "no tradebacks", like they knew he was damaged goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 03:28 PM) Brian Bilek @BrianBilek_ 3m3 minutes ago AJ Preller faced sanctions with #Rangers, was under investigation with #Padres and now caught withholding medical records in three trades. 1 retweet 0 likes What 3 trades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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