pettie4sox Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:59 PM) The Sox are 4-21 in the cities of Kansas City, Detroit, and Cleveland. Is it too much to ask for .500 ball in that area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The positive to take from today is that despite covering 5 innings with guys from the bottom of the pen, they didn't walk anyone. Especially with Kahnle who pitched today, and then Beck and Ynoa, walks are going to be the thing that keep them from being major league pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) Is it too much to ask for .500 ball in that area? When they were 23-10, I was hoping for 9-10 against all three. I wasn't getting greedy. Obviously, things went south fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) When they were 23-10, I was hoping for 9-10 against all three. I wasn't getting greedy. Obviously, things went south fast. The team's winning % since then is .419, which is only better than the winning percentages of four other teams in the Majors right now. I hope management looks long and hard at that before they decide to go on another one of their wild "retooling" goose chases this offseason. High time to change course and chart out a whole new direction for this ballclub. Edited September 19, 2016 by Thad Bosley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) The team's winning % since then is .419, which is only better than the winning percentages of four other teams in the Majors right now. I hope management looks long and hard at that before they decide to go on another one of their wild "retooling" goose chases this offseason. High time to change course and chart out a whole new direction for this ballclub. Good lord that's awful. I'm sorry but Robin has outstayed his welcome. He and his staff need to be s***canned the last day of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Good lord that's awful. I'm sorry but Robin has outstayed his welcome. He and his staff need to be s***canned the last day of season. Nah... Let's just keep doing this for another 10 years. We're onto something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 So for those who have TV access, that's 2 bad starts for Rodon in a row following his good stretch. Is there something serious here we should be worried about, or are we simply in "he's up against the innings number he threw last year and his arm his hitting a wall" territory? Is he still using the changeup he was featuring 2 weeks ago or has pitching style changed again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:03 PM) What's new... KC kicks the sox ass. To be honest, KC really plays well against the central and bad against everyone else haha. They have a losing record against Cleveland but double digit wins against everyone else. Specifically, two AL West teams...inexplicably, one of them is the A's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:48 PM) So for those who have TV access, that's 2 bad starts for Rodon in a row following his good stretch. Is there something serious here we should be worried about, or are we simply in "he's up against the innings number he threw last year and his arm his hitting a wall" territory? Is he still using the changeup he was featuring 2 weeks ago or has pitching style changed again? The K.C. announcers blamed the hot weather for Rodon's difficulties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 05:09 PM) The K.C. announcers blamed the hot weather for Rodon's difficulties. That...seems unhelpful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain54 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) We just that with bad at bats by Garcia and Narvaez leaving the bases loaded This has killed the Sox all year. The table setters at the top of the order get on base, and the black holes at the bottom of the lineup get "tight sphincters". To borrow a Hawkism. I'd love to know how Kenny Hahn plans to address this issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 09:03 PM) Is it too much to ask for .500 ball in that area? I'm sure the front office doesn't see this as a problem. It's scouting. It's our team not responding to the challenge. Other teams treat the games more importantly than the Sox. They realize uh, these games matter more! It's going to take a while to get over this ineptitude vs. the Central. We need a good manager first of all. I don't know if just adding Renteria is going to matter much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Q and Rodon back to back stinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain54 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 07:06 PM) I'm sure the front office doesn't see this as a problem. It's scouting. Right, or blame the sucky Sox disloyal fans who don't show up the games, thus handcuffing the front office and forcing them to put a mediocre product on the field. Edited September 20, 2016 by captain54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 So Abreu states the Sox don't want it as much as the Royals do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) how do you expect them to be ready to go when you do need them to be good in September and hopefully October? That won't be an issue as long as they're wearing this uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 08:06 PM) I'm sure the front office doesn't see this as a problem. It's scouting. It's our team not responding to the challenge. Other teams treat the games more importantly than the Sox. They realize uh, these games matter more! It's going to take a while to get over this ineptitude vs. the Central. We need a good manager first of all. I don't know if just adding Renteria is going to matter much. They can't possibly be thinking of Renteria. If they were they would have dumped Robin mid-season and test drove Renteria the 2nd half. If the FO goes that route, they are dumber than I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 02:53 AM) They can't possibly be thinking of Renteria. If they were they would have dumped Robin mid-season and test drove Renteria the 2nd half. If the FO goes that route, they are dumber than I think. Believe someone floated out idea they didn't want to replace Ventura with Renteria during the season in case they played terribly down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) Believe someone floated out idea they didn't want to replace Ventura with Renteria during the season in case they played terribly down the stretch. I thought I read that Rentaria wouldn't take the job midseason beacuse he didn't want to do that to Ventura? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 02:19 AM) So Abreu states the Sox don't want it as much as the Royals do. Finally somebody said it. Sox don't want it most times they take the field. For some reason they seem to play hard against the AL East and the Cubs get their attention UNTIL we assure ourselves at least a split in the series. Sox played so passively after winning those 2 in the Cell. The other teams in the Central care about beating the Sox; the Sox could give a s*** about beating those teams in the Central. They mail in those games effort wise. You guys despised Ozzie but he wouldn't have put up with this s*** without calling out these bums. Edited September 20, 2016 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) Finally somebody said it. Sox don't want it most times they take the field. For some reason they seem to play hard against the AL East and the Cubs get their attention UNTIL we assure ourselves at least a split in the series. Sox played so passively after winning those 2 in the Cell. The other teams in the Central care about beating the Sox; the Sox could give a s*** about beating those teams in the Central. They mail in those games effort wise. You guys despised Ozzie but he wouldn't have put up with this s*** without calling out these bums. Ozzie got owned by the Twins, Royals and Tigers...with the exception of 2005 and 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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