Heads22 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/white-s...-rick-renteria/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 06:30 PM) http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/white-s...-rick-renteria/ Well Don Cooper will be staying. I wonder if a new hitting coach will be hired and if there will be staff changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 06:38 PM) Well Don Cooper will be staying. I wonder if a new hitting coach will be hired and if there will be staff changes. Well, I guess Renteria is better than Ventura out there and I would hope they'd hire some new coaches. I guess it's fine that Cooper stays. And I guess Sox fans will get what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Makes sense, not sure why they leaked the Ventura stuff the other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Not a shocker, but the roller coaster ride this week for the fanbase was completely unnecessary. They could have had a Robin Ventura Appreciation Day scheduled this weekend instead of the farce that ensued...which was so insulting to knowledgeable fans that even the casual ones saw right through it. JR obviously cares more about the perception of loyalty to valued employees than what fans think, and that's why the relationship has gradually been fraying the last five years after the honeymoon period of 2005-06 wore off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Hopefully this works out, but we'll see. I think they're just going to go for it again and hope 2005 happens again. And just remember- if the Sox go 77-85 next year, it doesn't mean Ventura deserved to stay. He wasn't a good manager, and will never even interview for a manager's job again, so turn the page on his five years and move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 A move that should have been made earlier this season. But better late than never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I think Robin was a perfectly fine manager, but I'm not sure they could manage the PR aspect of keeping him around. Sometimes it's worth making a change just so that you've changed something. Who knows, maybe Renteria is a superb manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Renteria has been praised for his work with young players. Bringing Robin back and taking a step back is only going to make the people who think managers are worth 15 wins a season more frothy at the mouth. Another sign of a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Sox have scheduled a press conference for 11:30 am Monday. Bye Robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) I want to be the first one to say that we're not calling him "Ricky". He can let that stay with the Cubs and their homer reporters. Edited October 2, 2016 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 06:09 PM) Renteria has been praised for his work with young players. Bringing Robin back and taking a step back is only going to make the people who think managers are worth 15 wins a season more frothy at the mouth. Another sign of a rebuild. Given the half assed approach in attempting to contend by the front office we can't afford to give up even 1 win because of a poor manager. Edited October 2, 2016 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Sorry Robin but..... Lots of Kenny Williams leaving rumors out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 That would be great. Buddy Bell too, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 07:20 PM) That would be great. Buddy Bell too, please. I would like a full cleaning of the house...but they arent putting Rick Hahn out there only for him to get fired later...he's staying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Clearly, every really good manager can mean a difference of 2-3 games per season, and bad ones 2-3 additional losses. Let's just hope we finally see consistent refinement in some of the fundamentals, especially from the non-veteran players like Anderson, Tilson and Saladino (scary to say rebuilding without a young core of position talent beyond that, and hopefully Collins in late 2017). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I wished we actually did a hiring process instead of just giving a guy the job. But I am glad Robin is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Beast Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 07:21 PM) I would like a full cleaning of the house...but they arent putting Rick Hahn out there only for him to get fired later...he's staying I would have loved a full cleaning of the house too, including Don Cooper. I don't care what he's done with pitchers, it doesn't hurt to do a full fall cleaning once in awhile. Plus some jackass told me "I didn't know baseball" since I thought it would be a good idea to let everyone go, including Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 07:15 PM) Sorry Robin but..... Lots of Kenny Williams leaving rumors out there From anyone legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I'm glad they're just going ahead and hiring him. Rick deserved the shot and I don't wanna hear the garbage about Dave Martinez and Sandy Alomar for 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) From anyone legit? Barstool guy if you consider him legit. Sounds a little more to me like reading the tea leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) Clearly, every really good manager can mean a difference of 2-3 games per season, and bad ones 2-3 additional losses. Let's just hope we finally see consistent refinement in some of the fundamentals, especially from the non-veteran players like Anderson, Tilson and Saladino (scary to say rebuilding without a young core of position talent beyond that, and hopefully Collins in late 2017). Do we think they'll do a sell off or they'll retool? I hope they trade some pitching to get some young bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 2, 2016 -> 12:31 AM) Barstool guy if you consider him legit. Sounds a little more to me like reading the tea leaves. Also interesting tweet by him about Sox and free agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) Barstool guy if you consider him legit. Sounds a little more to me like reading the tea leaves. That would be the news off the year if it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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